Professorship?

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  1. Friendlyman

    Friendlyman New Member

    I understand professorship is something that cab be awarded after doctorate. But what exactly that is? What one has to do to acquire it? What are the advanatges of it? And are there any other awards or courses that target people who already have a doctorate?

    Thank you for any answers
     
  2. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    A professorship means you have a job as a professor. It's not an award (except bogusly at Saint Regis University).

    In England, the Doctorate of Science tends to be conferred on people who already have PhDs.

    Stanford had that thing called the "GICAME" = "graduate of the International Center for the Advancement of Management Education". ICAME "was the first school-within-a-school in the world where the students were faculty at foreign institutions."
     
  3. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    In the German-speaking countries, you write a second thesis over 5-6 years, above the PhD-level, called "Habilitation".

    In Germany, you get a "2nd degree", either "Dr. habil." or "Venia Legendi", which means "the right to teach and research". Normally, you need this to become a full-time tenured Professor.

    In Austria, it´s quite the same, but you are already called "extra-ordinary Professory" (a.o. Prof. = außerordentlicher Professor) when you successfully finished your Habilitation.

    In Switzerland, it´s kind of the same, and in some former-Eastern Block countries also...

    Greets,
    trigger
     
  4. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Professorship is a term of academic rank. Typically, when faculty are hired full-time at a university, they start as a Assistant Professors. After a few years, they can apply for a faculty rank (and salary) promotion to Associate Professor (at this time tenure is usually granted as well). After a certain number of years, one can be promoted to Professor (often referred to as "Full" Professor).

    Tony Piña
    Faculty, Cal State U. San Bernardino
     
  5. Bill Hurd

    Bill Hurd New Member

    The military has a rank of Lt. Col. and Colonel (sometimes called "full" Colonel). When a Lt Col answers the phone as Colonel X he becomes a "Telephone Colonel"

    Does an Assistant Professor likewise become a "Telephone Professor?"


    Bill Hurd
     
  6. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    LOL

    Perhaps one who teaches via distance learning becomes a "Chat Room Professor", "Threaded Discussion Professor" or "E-mail Professor".

    Tony
     
  7. obecve

    obecve New Member

    The process to becoming professor can take 12 or more years post doctorate. An assistant professor can submit after 5-6 years. They are required to have evidence of service, teaching and research. Publications, professional particpation, workshops, university committees, etc. all become important. If the person does not make it the first time they can appy a second time for Associate professor. Often if they do not make it the second time they are given a terminal contract (1 year) and will have to go to a new university. The process is again the same from associate to full professor. However, it they have tenure they will get to stay regardless of the outcome.
     
  8. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Or "Full Bird" or "Chicken Colonel" or...
     
  9. AJJ

    AJJ New Member

    Generalisation

    This is where this sort of discussion goes 'pear shaped'! What will be true for one country will not be so in another. Everyone who has posted is correct - to a great or lesser degree! If an institution wants someone (irrespective as to age, time teaching, etc) they'll grant them a full professorship. In the Uk the title 'professor' has,until the past 10 years or so, been a 'protected' title. Only the very best academics achieved/have been granted the title. The UK is now going down the US route - all and sundry are being granted the title and it is being completely devalued. People in all sorts of institutions are holding the title 'professor' and-frankly-they don't deserve it! Many are very ,very academic light-weights! The title 'professor' in the UK has, hitherto, been granted to ther 'very best' academics. I am all for expanding 'best' and to more people but it is interesting to note how many administrators in non-university institutions that would like to a university have acquired the title 'professor'.

    AJJ
     
  10. AJJ

    AJJ New Member

    Generalisation

    This is where this sort of discussion goes 'pear shaped'! What will be true for one country will not be so in another. Everyone who has posted is correct - to a great or lesser degree! If an institution wants someone (irrespective as to age, time teaching, etc) they'll grant them a full professorship. In the Uk the title 'professor' has,until the past 10 years or so, been a 'protected' title. Only the very best academics achieved/have been granted the title. The UK is now going down the US route - all and sundry are being granted the title and it is being completely devalued. People in all sorts of institutions are holding the title 'professor' and-frankly-they don't deserve it! Many are very ,very academic light-weights! The title 'professor' in the UK has, hitherto, been granted to ther 'very best' academics. I am all for expanding 'best' and to more people but it is interesting to note how many administrators in non-university institutions that would like to a university have acquired the title 'professor'.

    AJJ
     
  11. Orson

    Orson New Member

    But what about...?

    What about the title "Professor Doctor?"
    I know it is used in China and Continental Europe...But these are usually just PhDs.

    Now, this exceptionally pedantic sounding title is dispensed with in the US. An academic instructor wielding the PhD we often call "Doctor" - and the med school MD we normally just call "Professor."

    ...except for those rare birds who have PhDs and an MD - who we might very legitimately call "Professor Doctor" - such as my old high school debate partner, now professor of biomedical engineering at Minnesota.

    Actually, in such circumstances, it is just a pedantic tease - it just sounds insufferably "funny" to us Yanks! Like the guy who insists on being called "Mister"
    when the chummy "Fred" would do just fine.

    --Orson
     
  12. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

     

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