I would like to buy a diplom in Nursing from a accreditated University. Can samone help. lelica ------------------
Well I can't let this one go by. Hmmm Nursing diploma- if you mean in the USA there are not too many of those schools left. ASN or BSN degrees these days however there are probably some diploma schools around somewhere. I figure that you are: 1. Just looking for a response or 2. currently a nurse (LVN/LPN/RN) and want a degree without additional learning or 3. dangerous for society as you wish to become a nurse without formal training. Well assuming you are number three I can say that I think it would be very hard to impossible to just buy a nursing diploma or degree but if you did then you would need to license in a state that you live in and they will investigate your degree and you will be tested. When going to testing you will have to prove your identity and of course pass the exam. This is why I tend to think you are number 1 or 2. Fortunately this board is not dedicated to helping individuals buy diplomas but rather to help those interested in Distance Learning make good decisions about their education while warning others of institutions to avoid. Well I would like to wish you luck but I sincerly hope that if you are number 2-3 that you do not succeed in your goal. If however you are just trolling to get a reaction you just got it. Jim Carlson BSN, MA ODE
Lelica: Welcome to the forum. Several suggestions in your pursuit of an illegitimate credential, as this is what any bought degree will be: 1. Take some remedial classes in English composition at your local community college. Out of sixteen words in your post, three were spelled incorrectly, one improper use of a/an, and two incorrectly capitalized words. One's name, Nurse Lelica, should also begin with a capital letter! 2. If you wish to buy a degree, go online to (name of degree mill deleted by moderator) and you may do so. The Ph.D. is only $395.00, other degrees even less. NIU has a degree program in inter-disciplinary studies which might include nursing. 3. If, by chance, you are able to "buy" a nursing degree, please travel to some remote island to practice nursing. Less people will be negatively affected this way. 4. And if you ever become serious about a nursing degree, plan to spend several years in a regionally accredited institution. In this manner you may earn a legitimate credential. Since I believe your post was written in jest, so is my response! Russell [Note: This message has been edited by Chip]
As long as you're picking on grammar, shouldn't it be 'fewer people' not 'less people'? Sorry, couldn't resist. Scott
If the author's grammar is any indicator, it would make perfect sense for her to buy a "diplom." Learn to spell properly before you turn on your laserjet. Byran
Sorry for my english. To all: I am in Germany a state aproved Geriatric Nurse RN, and I work since 1992 in a Hospital as a Male Nurse. I want to have a Master od PhD. in Nursing, just for me, thats all. and Lelica ist my name. I come from Romania and live in Germany since 1990. Sincerely, Lelica
Ok you are a state approved Geriatric Nurse (diploma program) in Germany and you would like an accredited graduate diploma such as a MSN, DNSc. or Ph.D. From your first message you would like to buy this from a school. So you are in reality a number 2 from my first response. You cannot purchase a diploma/degree that is accredited by a recognized agency! They don't sell them- go ahead and ask. The whole ideal of an education is you learn something. There is not much learning involved in a purchased degree. If all you want is a piece of paper that will not be used for anything then yourself then design and print one yourself. It is cheaper and you will have spent more time on designing it then just buying one from someone else who does it. The whole ideal buying it ties into the psychology of if I bought it then I deserve it and it is mine so I can tell others I did a Ph.D. (this week). You can then explain where you studied such as at the glorious Northwestern International Univeristy Ltd. Cyprus with their administrative "offices" in Denmark and campus in Cyprus (at a PO box shared by many companies). Well if all you want is to spend money on paper use NIU as Russell noted they have a special $395 for a Ph.D. A bonus is they are accredited by an agency they made up themselves! Great you can get it all as soon your payment clears the bank. All those people in the world with associates, bachelors, masters & doctorates from recognized accredited institutions actually had to study and prove their learning over a number of years. Learning is kind of the whole point of an education but that is just my opinion. Jim
Jim, You might want to consider that this person, who just said that he was from Romania, does not have the best command of english. Which means that he is expressing himself in a way that can be misunderstood. I really don't think he wants to "buy" a fake degree, but wishes to consider taking a course. He did mention "accredited" after all. Remembering that paying a fee, is a purchase, we have all "bought" degrees if we've attended a school that charged fees. Good grief, lets please remember that this board is not only frequented by North Americans (yes, yes, Canadians included in the term North American *sigh*), and therefore not everyone posing a question will have a perfect command of english. It happens to be my second language as well. Now I fear writing anything, lest I be misunderstood.
Mr. Lelica: I assumed your post was only jest, given the nature of the request, i.e., to "buy" a degree. I, therefore, resonded likewise. So I apologize if you took my post seriously. However, if you are serious about a degree, please be aware that a genuine credential must be earned, not bought. The "institution" I named in the former post was also in jest, as I didn't think you were sincere in your request. I would (never) seriously encourage anyone who wanted a legitimate credential to obtain one from the school I spoke of. Best wishes in your pursuit of a legitimate nursing degree. And for a non-US citizen, your English is probably better than my German or Romanian. Russell
Well you're right I should give the benefit of the doubt and maybe the intention of the post was not to purchase a degree but to obtain one from an accredited institution but I have to admit that workding in the post seems to be clear with regards to intent but that proabably says more about me then this person. Now regarding English and mother tongues- I've lived in Denmark (just north of Germany for those who may not know) the last 9 years and I have worked with many Europeans over the years and fully respect language difficulties they may have with English as I myself have on occasion in Danish. I made no comments regarding the English/grammar usage in this or any other thread cuz it ain't that important to me. Jim
Actually this thread is a perfect example of the weaknesses of asynchronous non-F2F communication. After reviewing all of the comments it is not clear what the intention of the original poster is except they wish to obtain a graduate degree. I think the lack of clarity stems from our mind set when we come to this board. It is difficult to communicate on the same wavelength in such a media unless everyone is very clear in the text (maybe the reason for focus on grammar?) and open to reflection about the actual message that is trying to be conveyed. Gee this is starting to feel like school again- want start a thread on "reflection in action" or maybe on Rogerian interfaces in asynchronous communication. Jim (in reflective mode) Carlson
I meen become a diplom not buy a diplom. I just find the University of Wyoming, they offer a Master in Nursing online for $5000. I have send my CV and wait for a answer. (Lelica) Viorel Lapping Germany
I used to frequent the programming discussion boards. I recall many of the Pakistanis and Indians wanting to buy degrees that they thought would allow them to stay in the U.S. They had a business degree or science degree and wanted to just purchase a computer degree so they could stay here, or even get here. That was, and still is, a blatant example of how the H-1B Visa issue is being abused. God only knows how many of the H-1B holders have fake degrees and are here abusing the system. But then, our federal government set it up to be abused.
That calls for a two-part answer. 1. God does, in fact, know. He told me, and the answer is "an awful lot." The H-1 programs rival the "legalization" programs of the 1980s for pure, unmitigated criminality. 2. The whole process for obtaining approval to import non-immigrant workers (H-1Bs) couldn't be more porous if it were designed by fraud artists. Of course, it *was* designed by fraud artists.. for a good laugh, call an immigration lawyer up and ask for an idea of the fees involved in petitioning for an H-1 worker. For the bonus round, guess what professional association lobbied like hell to keep H-1 program responsibilities divided between 4 agencies, insuring that all would be completely impotent, and to raise the numerical limits on H-1 admissions to even more ridiculous levels.
Good grief, lets please remember that this board is not only frequented by North Americans (yes, yes, Canadians included in the term North American *sigh*), and therefore not everyone posing a question will have a perfect command of english. It happens to be my second language as well. Now I fear writing anything, lest I be misunderstood. [/QUOTE] I work with International students (I try to avoid the term "foreign" as too geocentric) on a daily basis. If you had not mentioned English is your second language, I doubt I'd have noticed. Your grasp of the nuances of the language seem excellent and I commend the work you've obviously put into this skill. I would have serious reservations about the probability for success of a student in any type of (legitimate) degree program in the United States who had not sufficiently mastered the basics of English to be able to communicate clearly his/her intentions. While I'm not aware of any Distance Learning programs which offer English as a Second Language (ESL) classes, perhaps there are others of you who might be able to make some recommendations.
I work with International students (I try to avoid the term "foreign" as too geocentric) on a daily basis. If you had not mentioned English is your second language, I doubt I'd have noticed. Your grasp of the nuances of the language seem excellent and I commend the work you've obviously put into this skill. I would have serious reservations about the probability for success of a student in any type of (legitimate) degree program in the United States who had not sufficiently mastered the basics of English to be able to communicate clearly his/her intentions. While I'm not aware of any Distance Learning programs which offer English as a Second Language (ESL) classes, perhaps there are others of you who might be able to make some recommendations. [/B][/QUOTE] Dear Nicole, Greetings! Yes, there are some program in ESL (ESOL, EFL, ENS, etc.) at a distance. The ones I know are from: 1) Athabasca Universtiy 2) Atlantic Cape Community College 3) California State University--Los Angeles 4) Chemeketa Community College 5) Portland Community College 6) State University of New York 7) University of Arizona 8) Utah Electronic Community College I hope this helps. Cordially yours, Karlos Alberto Lacaye [email protected]
Lelica, Here are two to look at: University of FL http://con.ufl.edu/MSNProg.htm Tuition for the four semesters is estimated to be $ 145 per credit hour (FL residents) and $505 per credit hour (non- residents). A minimum of 48 semester hours is required for graduation. Federal traineeships and various types of scholarships may be available for qualified students. Excelsior (formerly Regents College) http://www.excelsior.edu/msn.htm Master of Science in Nursing with a Major in Clinical Systems Management. This is a 44-credit program offered at a cost of $300 per credit with a $100 application fee.
