California Coast University......need feedback and thanks.

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  1. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    I don't want to get into a debate on CCU. I noticed a number who post on this site have BS/MBA degrees from CCU. I was told I need 10 courses to complete my BS then go on to my MBA. If you could please tell me your experience with CCU and the complexity / process to complete courses.....thanks in advance.

    PS-I've read most of the threads on pros and cons of this college and again , I don't want to go there on this one.;)
     
  2. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Not wanting to leave the wrong impression but that would be 10 courses needed to complete the 40 required courses for the BS.

    The program would now require some sort of proctored examination so it may be different than that which I am taking.

    In the first 6 courses of the MBA program, the work has consisted of 200 multiple choice questions.

    They are not all straight-forward with many what are known as trick questions. The answers are all found in the text with pretty detailed reading required to find the answers to obscure questions.

    Is it hard - no. But you do have to do the work. With proctored exams, I assume that more memorization is required.
     
  3. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    CCU follow-up

    First, thanks for the reply. Second, are the proctored exams new to CCU and if yes , when did that start ?Is it part of the RA requirements?...........
     
  4. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    CCU is presently has applied for accreditation with the DETC. One DETC requirement is proctored exams, whether course by course, by block of courses, or at completion of program. Note that regionally accredited schools are not required to have proctored exams.

    CCU has required proctored exams since June. I am unsure whether every course requires one.
     
  5. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    This might be a little misleading. For instance, DETC accredited Ashworth College , while they do require the end of semester exams to be proctored, state the exams are open book, open note. Also, they have incredibly lax procedures concerning acceptable proctors. It kind of defeats the proctor purpose doesn't it?

    Tony
     
  6. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    Proctored exams.....DL

    Unless there is a process for someone to be pre-approved for a proctored exam , how does this whole thing work??? I'm new to the DL part of this. I have to complete my BS to meet my corporate requirements. CCU is on the list for "approved" colleges and I like the flexibility of the program. Are you saying that so long as I say that I have a proctor there is no pre-screening?........let me know and thanks for responding !
     
  7. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Time to email CCU.

    The only proctored exams that I ever wrote were for an accounting organization. The accepted pretty much any professional or person in a position of authority, someone who has something to lose by committing fraud.

    I have proctored exams for people, based on my accounting designation.
     
  8. jackjustice

    jackjustice New Member

    I think normally that the proctor is chosen by the student, but this is not always the case. Some proctored tests are 'proctored' by designees of the school and the student will go to a particular location for the test. This might, for instance, be a more efficient way of doing things if there are several students in the same area. I think, too, as a rule the test in mailed to the proctor, not the student, and it is the proctor's responsibility to return the test to the school. The proctor may or may not be present for the entire test. It would most likely be up to the proctor to determine a process to protect the integrity of the process while adhering to whatever protocol is provided by the school, e.g. no books, no notes, etc.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I needed to take 19 courses for my BS and the 12 classes for the MBA. As far as difficulty - I found the classes challenging. Some were really tough. I spoke to my sister-in-law, who is a lawyer, many times to clarify a point. I also spoke to my sister, and accountant, once a week to help explain some accounting concepts.

    I did find some of the classes to be more difficult than the Touro University classes I am taking now.

    I never had to take any of the protored exams.

    Hope this helps.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I currently serve as an Ashworth proctor for a local law enforcement officer who is pursuing the associate's degree. To qualify as a proctor, Ashworth required submission of personal info, including credentials. No exam I have proctored thus far has been open book/note. Each exam was required to be taken without the use of notes, books or any type of study material.
     
  11. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    I guess I am taking one step at a time. Questions:

    BA / BS ...... you said 19 classes. How long did it take to complete?

    How much time was spent dailey on this?

    Was CCU a help as you went along?

    MBA- different animal or same as BA/BS but more difficult.

    Thanks again for your time and help!

    ( tried to e-mail you but said your e-mail box was full )
     
  12. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    From the student's faqs page.
    emphasis mine

    From the criminal justice catalog.
    emphasis not mine

    I don't know Russell, perhaps they (Ashworth) are in the process of changing their procedures. Regardless, my point was not about Ashworth, it was about the oft repeated, delusional DETCer's dogma that DETC standards are more rigorous than RA standards because of the requirement for proctored tests.

    I must have read too many posts on collegehints and finally buckled under the...
    ...I think you are absolutely correct...'s
    ...that is a very good point...'s
    ...I totally agree...'s
    et cetera. :eek:

    I don't mind the act of grasping for straws, but one should at least show when drawing the short one.

    Tony

    BTW I don't mind Ashworth, in fact, I like the low tuition and easy payment plan they offer. I would recommend this school to someone far before I would recommend some of the nationally accreditted schools who rape and pillage the students bank account to the tune of $40,000+.
     
  13. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    The 19 classes took about 15 months. I spent about 6-8 hours per week. CCU was not overly helpful but they were OK.

    MBA was the a bit harder, it took 20 months and I worked about the same 6-8 hours per week. The classes were laid out the same but the tests were a lot harder. Even though they were open-book, I had to re-take two classes because I got C's and my GPA was to low to graduate; I needed a 3.0 and I finished with a 3.08 after retaking the exams. Currently I have a 3.93 GPA from TUI.

    Hope this helps
     
  14. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    Thanks for the reply Randell.....more questions

    could you take the time to walk me through the CCU process.

    US History ( an example )
    Rent / Buy the book?
    Study guide?
    How many tests?
    Mid term?
    Final Exam.....how many questions.

    My take on this is one would rent a book , read the book, take tests ( unproctored ) submitt for grading , get grade.go on to next subject.return old books, rent new subject books. How close am I on this?????

    as usual, thanks in advance.
    ;)
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Re: Thanks for the reply Randell.....more questions

    You are pretty much right on the money. I would order the course (three at a time), get the course, order the book, read the book as I am looking at the exam so I can answer the questions and I would mark the page I found the answers on so I refer back to them if I need to.
     
  16. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    to answer the other questions-

    How many tests?
    Mid term?
    Final Exam.....how many questions.


    Study Guide -
    it is bundled together. Test one, test two, mid-term, test three, test four, final = 200 questions

    Accelerated Study Guide -
    it is bundled together. Test one, mid-term, test four, final = 100 questions.

    I do not know if it has changed
     
  17. RUKIDNME98

    RUKIDNME98 New Member

    more questions / comments.

    Randell........

    test questions : Mult. Choice......written ......essay ( I am assuming the test is hand written, not electronic )

    You said you ordered three at a time......does the exam come at the same time as the book?.if so what you did is start the exam while reading? is that correct? Is the exam in the same order as the book?......( I know , I ask a lot of questions :) .
    and finally ( drum roll ).......is the total of 200 questions a combination of test on , two etc. or is that in addition to?

    Thanks for the insight into CCU and if you have any thing else you would like to add off-line, send me an e-mail
     
  18. Ticonderoga

    Ticonderoga New Member

    Is CCU regionally accredited? I didn't think that they were. I read their course plan for me to complete a degree. It seemed like a complete joke. Write an essay and viola, you have a degree. It didn't seem very real.
     
  19. Broderick

    Broderick New Member

    ???

    As we all know, CCU is not RA and has applied for accreditation with the DETC. We shall see what happens with that. Currently it has state approval. If you have done your homework you would already know this.
    As for the course plan that you received, are you sure it was from CCU? The CCU we all know does not award degrees by "writing an essay and viola, you have a degree".
    Research more, and then criticize. You will find much better fodder to support your argument.

    Veritas,

    Michael
     
  20. Do you think CCU will receive DETC Accreditation

    CCU is interesting and I would probably apply if it had the DETC stamp of approval. I want a masters so I can move up the salary scale, that's all. Experts out there--do you think it has a good chance of earning DETC accreditation?
     

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