Hi I plan on taking an online MBA from Columbia Southern University http://www.colsouth.edu based in Alabama. They are accredited by DETC and CHEA, both of which are recognized by the US dept of Education. Has anyone heard anything about them, bad or good?
They deceptively claimed fake accreditation until they were accredited by the DETC. Taking an MBA from a DETC-accredited school can have some limitations. Some employers won't recognize it, and many schools won't let you enter a doctoral program based on a degree from a nationally accredited (i.e. DETC) school. And if they'll admit you as a doctoral student with that MBA, they probably wouldn't hire you as a faculty member based upon it. There are many MBA programs from regionally accredited schools offered by distance learning, including some that are as inexpensive as that one. You might want to consider them, too.
Bunch of threads here regarding Columbia Southern University that you will want to search. I completed an MBA with them and found the format to my liking. CSU folks were prompt in responding to inquiries, the learning outcomes were well laid out in lesson plans and the professors were reachable. Most of their exams were capable of on-line submission. You will still need a proctor to provide you with the exam and password to input your answers. The board has touched on the utility of a DETC accredited degree. Feel free to PM me if you want more specifics.
Rich, you are mostly correct. However I completed mine during a time frame when CSU offered a 20% learner discount based upon GPA. Since mine was well up I saved 20% on the degree. Total, including books was around $6000. To take several project management classes with ESI, Villanova, or others resulting in a certificate would have cost significantly more. The CSU MBA-PM was attractively priced and an accredited (albeit DETC) degree. The program was also self-paced. Which was the deciding factor for me. Now that UNA and others have moved to the 8 week classes I probably would have transferred to UNA based upon the CSU articulation.
Why does this thread exist... in two parallel universes? Serious breach of etiquette. I mean really, I had to write this twice.
Rich, http://www.tourou.edu/catalog/faculty.htm Anthony J. Nuvallie, Doctoral Faculty Mentor - Business Administration · M.Ed. Cambridge College · Ph.D. Columbia Southern University Thoughts?
He received the Ph.D. before CSU applied for accreditation. DETC made them drop their doctoral offerings.
All PhDs that were awarded by Columbia Southern University before the university became accredited by DETC are unaccredited degrees. Prior to DETC accreditation, Columbia Southern University used to claim a bogus accreditation. On another note, it seems that Touro University International employed two faculty members with controversial credentials. Dr. Hassad receieved his PhD from Berne University and Dr. Nuvallie from Colsouth. Ike Okonkwo, PhD.
Ike, at the risk of continuing off-thread. I noticed that also. I questioned the staff at CSU about the PHD. The response was the same as that of Bruce. What, if anything does this hiring say about TUI and/or CSU? More importantly, does this play a factor in TUI and the accreditation issues?
Yes. It is unfortunate that Touro U. International lists his Ph.D., which comes from an unaccredited school.
Dr. Hassad also teaches at Mercy College in New York. He undertook quite a campaign against me last year. He wrote to the North Central Association and Union Institute and University many times over (under aliases) claiming my doctoral work--which he'd never seen--was really John Bear's. (He confused the statistical work I did on John's survey with my own research--quite separate.) UIU's attorneys wrote him a cease-and-disist letter, and he quit. Also, one of my committee members (not John and not me) contacted Mercy College and let them know about Hassad's activities--including his use of their server to send his "anonymous" e-mails. It was messy.
I am happy that he did not succeed in derailing your doctoral studies. He who laughs last is he who laughs longest. Since his malicious campaign against you did not prevent you from completing your PhD, you undoubtedly laughed longer than him. Ike Okonkwo, PhD
TUI is not alone. Many colleges have mistakenly hired applicants with unaccredited credentials. It probably did but we don't know. Ike Okonkwo, PhD
This thread ties in with the comments made on DETC accreditation for the Ashworth MBA. Many of the accreditation comments still apply. Overall, I commend those schools that were unaccredited and considered dubious at one time to be serious enough about their programs and school to obtain recognized accreditation. We may question DETC at times and not consider it as good as RA. Nonetheless, you are at least getting an educational product that has been externally evaluated and will have some utility when you get a DETC degree. It may raise questions, it may not get you far with most RA institutions but you will get an education that will not be a time bomb. John
