International City University of America

The following has been brought to my attention:

http://www.icua.us

I cannot find any mention of the university at http://www.bppve.ca.gov/ and having any degree granting approval from the State of California, although they state the following:

International City University of America is registered in the State of California of USA. All degrees granted or issued in California are equal under the law. Judgments of value and applicability of a certain degree are not made by the law of the state. However, the applicability of a degree to a particular job or the transfer of educational credits to another university is determined by those who render such evaluations for each specified purposes.

They claim to have close affiliations with Curtin University and University of Technology Sydney, displaying letters (albeit, very small) from the respective institutions. Scary stuff, which needs clarification. Can anyone provide any insight? I don't seem to be able to get any domain ownership details either.

Cheers,

George

 

Use http://www.whois.us/

Domain Name ICUA.US
Domain ID D2375293-US
Sponsoring Registrar DOTSTER
Domain Status ok
Registrant ID DOT-L66LS2293VD4
Registrant Name Raymond Y.C.Tse
Registrant Organization International Transport and Logictics Association
Registrant Address1 Suite 1301, 13/F, Asian House, 1 Hennessy Road,
Registrant Address2 Wan Chai, H.K.
Registrant City HKSAR
Registrant State/Province HKSAR
Registrant Postal Code -
Registrant Country Hong Kong
Registrant Country Code HK
Registrant Phone Number +852.85221356718
Registrant Facsimile Number +852.85222940255
Registrant Email [email protected]
Registrant Application Purpose P2
Registrant Nexus Category C31/HK
Administrative Contact ID DOT-RT44C8LELZK4
Administrative Contact Name Raymond Y.C.Tse
Administrative Contact Organization International Transport and Logictics Association
Administrative Contact Address1 Suite 1301, 13/F, Asian House, 1 Hennessy Road,
Administrative Contact Address2 Wan Chai, H.K.
Administrative Contact City HKSAR
Administrative Contact State/Province HKSAR
Administrative Contact Postal Code -
Administrative Contact Country Hong Kong
Administrative Contact Country Code HK
Administrative Contact Phone Number +852.85221356718
Administrative Contact Facsimile Number +852.85222940255
Administrative Contact Email [email protected]
Billing Contact ID DOT-C7SHZQGLD6ZR
Billing Contact Name Raymond Y.C.Tse
Billing Contact Organization International Transport and Logictics Association
Billing Contact Address1 Suite 1301, 13/F, Asian House, 1 Hennessy Road,
Billing Contact Address2 Wan Chai, H.K.
Billing Contact City HKSAR
Billing Contact State/Province HKSAR
Billing Contact Postal Code -
Billing Contact Country Hong Kong
Billing Contact Country Code HK
Billing Contact Phone Number +852.85221356718
Billing Contact Facsimile Number +852.85222940255
Billing Contact Email [email protected]
Technical Contact ID DOT-38ADRETYH3J4
Technical Contact Name Raymond Y.C.Tse
Technical Contact Organization International Transport and Logictics Association
Technical Contact Address1 Suite 1301, 13/F, Asian House, 1 Hennessy Road,
Technical Contact Address2 Wan Chai, H.K.
Technical Contact City HKSAR
Technical Contact State/Province HKSAR
Technical Contact Postal Code -
Technical Contact Country Hong Kong
Technical Contact Country Code HK
Technical Contact Phone Number +852.85221356718
Technical Contact Facsimile Number +852.85222940255
Technical Contact Email [email protected]
Name Server NS2.HOSTINGHK.COM
Name Server NS1.HOSTINGHK.COM
Created by Registrar DOTSTER
Last Updated by Registrar DOTSTER
Domain Registration Date Thu May 16 06:11:02 GMT 2002
Domain Expiration Date Sat May 15 23:59:59 GMT 2004
Domain Last Updated Date Tue Apr 01 01:27:41 GMT 2003

 

Some simple questions....

The dont like standard questions. Check out the dialogue below:

I wrote:

1) Does the ICUA grant degrees?
2) If so, from which jurisdiction does the ICUA obtain its degree granting authority?

I hope this is not difficult to understand...if so, how else should I ask the questions?

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They responded:

-----Original Message-----
From: ICUA Registry Office [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2004 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Degree granting approval of the International City University of America


Dear George,

The University will grant degree in China very soon.

Regards
Mary

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I wrote back:

----- Original Message -----
From: George Brown (Director - Degreeoftruth Pty Ltd)
To: ICUA Registry Office
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: Degree granting approval of the International City University of America


Dear Mary,

Thank you for your response, but I am still a little perplexed as to the 'current' degree granting status of ICUA. Please, can you answer the following questions:

1) Your website at http://www.icua.us/general/general.html#3 states that "International City University of America is registered in the State of California of USA". As you have pointed out previously, ICUA is not approved by the BPPVE to grant degrees, that I understand. In addition, I understand that accreditation in the USA is purely voluntary. *However*, every university in the world, either granted via Royal Charter/ Act of Parliament or via an external body government body, must have some form of external approval to grant degrees. So, my question is, 'where does ICUA obtain its degree granting authority', because...
2) Pages such as http://www.hkiob.com/MBA.doc and http://www.hkir.com/course.php state that the ICUA both accredits and grants degrees. I find this quite fascinating, as it is generally only self-accrediting universities such as those in the UK, Australia enacted via Acts of Parliament that are permitted to self-accredit programs. As such, again, the question arises, 'where does ICUA obtain its degree granting authority?'.

Thank you for responding to these questions - I do appreciate it.

Kind regards,

George Brown

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They wrote back

Dear George,

If the University grants degree in China, it implies that the University is registered in China (it is not difficult to understand).

Are you going to control University programs to be registered in other countries?

George: I think we should stop discussion now. We have no activities in USA currently. However, in case we want to offer courses in USA, we will certainly satisfy your requirements.

About the 2 websites www.hkir.com and www.hkiob.com, please ask their administrators. We are not in position to answer these questions.

Again, are you going to control other countries' websites?

Regards
Mary

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I have 'requirements' and I 'control'. What the?

Cheers,

George