3 questions about MBAs and eMBAs

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by auto, Dec 29, 2003.

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  1. auto

    auto New Member

    Hello,

    I'm new. I've been reading some posts about online/distance MBA and let's face some facts:


    I - MBA maybe works if you have the huge money (and not forget the talent) to go to Harvard or something like that.

    The point is that I do not have the money and maybe I'm not so fu**ing good to go to, in fact I'm tired of examination systems older than the Roman Empire: to have to memorize something to throw up later on the exam, if your memory "fails", then you are not smart enough and you have to "study" more.

    ONLINEPHD and GUS SAINZ have posted about to save money and go to a cheaper MBA, my question is:

    1. Why U-Mass (23000 USD) instead of, let's say, Dominguez Hills (9000 USD)?


    II - eMBA: BusinessWeek complains about the lack of support from eMBA Schools to help you to get a new job, that's a good point. You also need more working experience.
    Pros: faster way to get an MBA and maybe more focused on objectives. You can work and earn money and get the weekends on campus (if you live near one) or online. Athabasca in Canada offers an eMBA for about 32000 USD.
    Cons: more expensive than many online MBA.

    2. Any good (and not "expensive") online eMBA?


    III - "Automotive" MBA: Please, anybody knows anything? I've read that GM is using Cardean for some managers. But I think that Cardean University may not be cool on your Resume...
    On BusinessWeek there is a table called "The best of the Bunch" in Leadership, Marketing, Strategy and Global Business with names like Harvard, Wharton, Kellog, etc.

    3. Is there any other MBA related to the automotive industry?.

    Thank you,
     
  2. auto

    auto New Member

    OK.

    Dominguez Hills is RA and U-Mass is AACSB so it should be better, but North Dakota is AACSB and even cheaper than Dominguez Hills.
     
  3. aa4nu

    aa4nu Member

    "III - "Automotive" MBA: Please, anybody knows anything?
    I've read that GM is using Cardean for some managers. But
    I think that Cardean University may not be cool on your
    Resume... On BusinessWeek there is a table called "The best
    of the Bunch" in Leadership, Marketing, Strategy and Global
    Business with names like Harvard, Wharton, Kellog, etc.

    3. Is there any other MBA related to the automotive industry?."

    While NOT DL ... Northwood University has several MBA
    offerings that would have an automotive background.

    http://www.northwood.edu/scr/mba/ for more details.

    There may be others ... I have been in the automotive
    aftermarket for 25+years ... and having a MBA that is/was
    NOT tied into the industry was viewed as being able to
    "see" things from a fresh viewpoint.

    Just another data point for you to consider, as review the
    actual course content, not just the background setting ...

    Season's Greetings to ALL,

    Billy

    AA/BA - TESC
    MBA - Touro
    PhD Student - Touro
     
  4. auto

    auto New Member

    Thank you, I'm not in the aftermarquet, I'm an european engineer working for an automotive supplier (Customers: VW, Ford, GM, Nissan and Tier2 for Daimler-Chrysler, VW and Nissan).

    Until I read this forum I also didn't know about RA, AACSB and all that stuff, in fact many universities were I came from are public and if they offer any studies not homologated or official they have to say it (maybe because the government is looking after) so you don't have to worry about this.

    Happy new year!
     
  5. agilham

    agilham New Member

    In the UK, I'd immediately look at Cardiff University. The Centre for Automotive Industry Research is world-class. The Modular MBA from Cardiff isn't pure distance learning, but it might be interesting to you. http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/carbs/teaching/pgprog/current/mba/mod/index.html

    Angela
     
  6. auto

    auto New Member

    Thank you Angela.

    http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/carbs/teaching/pgprog/future/mbamod.html

    "The Modular MBA consists of eight taught modules each of eight contact time days duration and taken over a two to three months. "

    8 modules * 8 days = 64 days

    I don't know... I work in Mexico so I thought that maybe there is something on the USA.

    Regards,
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Maybe the CSUDH MSQA would fit your needs. When I took this degree (on campus) a high percentage (around 20%) of fellow students were from Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and auto parts manufacturers (all with headquarters in the vincinity of CSUDH).
     
  8. auto

    auto New Member

    Thank you Ian, the problem is that maybe if you try to save so much money you end getting also a cheap job, I don't know.

    I think that most of the issue is related to the ROI, if you go to a expensive school (not let's say the TOP 5), will you get a good job?

    Why U-Mass (23000 USD) instead of, let's say, Dominguez Hills (9000 USD)? Is it 2.5 times better? Will I earn the double?

    Besides, there are also expensive DL MBA (Duke, Michigan, Carnagie Mellon) and you have to go to the school several times. Angela posted about Cardiff: 8 modules*8 days = 64 days in the UK in 2 years plus trips. That's OK if you live in the same city or state, but you have to think about it when you have to take a plane.

    On the other hand, how is the examination system in pure DL MBA like Dominguez Hills?, some may argue that this another way to get Diploma Mills.

    Any free place to check ROI lists? (Besides BusinessWeek)

    Happy new year!
     
  9. aa4nu

    aa4nu Member

    Perhaps you are putting too much weight
    into what the MBA will "buy" you?

    Most jobs are spec'd as to role, expectations, and
    so forth ... NOT just by the level of education.

    As in, let's say being a Manager at level A is going
    to have a limited range as to total compensation ...

    Having a MBA, not having a MBA, or having a Top Ten
    MBA ... may NOT make any difference, that's my point.

    Don't under value YOU and your present/past work
    experience, and don't over value the role of having
    the MBA as a personal accomplishment.

    <BTW, we are also a Tier I & II OEM supplier ...>

    Happy New Year to ALL!

    Billy
     
  10. onlinephd

    onlinephd New Member

    Hmmm the only reason is the AACSB accreditation. Lets say 5 years from now you decide to start your PhD studies at Columbia Univ. I am not sure if they will accept your non-aacsb degree as valid and thus you would have to do an extra 30-60 credits.

    I have no reason to believe that one DL degree is better than the other - but there are factors that one should consider.

    Some schools do not have any interaction with students, some do not have locked in programs or cohort programs. Some require proctored exams, some do not. Some require visits and some do not. Everyone has their preferences.

    UMass is not 2.5x better than Dom-Hills, but being from the NY I felt UMass was more known than DH - not better.

    For me AACSB accreditation was worth the extra $$, but at the end I do not think that an MBA will provide me with more income but rather more knowledge.

    I personally believe that MBA are overhyped and a lot of marketing goes into them. I have an MS in EE and the amount of work and knowledge learned was many times more than most MBA programs.
     

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