Time to beat a dead horse: Fairfax University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Abbacabba, Dec 8, 2003.

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  1. Abbacabba

    Abbacabba New Member

    I've recently been told by my dept. supervisor that if I should obtain my degree before the anual reviews(about 4 mo away), that I would be set to get a large raise.

    I have almost 90% towards a CIS degree completed with various accrediated colleges, and currently looking at many DL schools like TESC and WGU.

    BUT, just to see I contacted Fairfax Univ. in LA (fairfaxu.edu).. They reported that with my credit plus my professional exp. I should only need to complete a disserataion for my BS.
    Also it seems my work would be willing to help towards the cost of the FairFax degree.

    Question: Seeing how I'm pursuing a BS and most likely continueing to a masters with another school(Excelsior/TESC), would there by any reason not to go on and get the FairFax BS?




    P.S. The only reason I'm considering is time, I've got a new job, new house, new son. And I don't think I would have the TESC or Excelsior degree before my review.
     
  2. Laser100

    Laser100 New Member

    FairFax Illegal in some states.

    Check-out this website:

    http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

    If you were looking for a more legit way of establish yourself I would consider using the "City and Guilds Institute of London" as a possible candidate for your review. TESC and Excelsior are of course the best route. I would suggest continuing with your progress by participation in regionally accredited institutions. Use this information on your own accord.

    Good Luck,


    Paul
     
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  3. Abbacabba

    Abbacabba New Member

    I have seen that link before.

    I'll check out the City and Guilds Institute of London, thanks.



    I would still like to hear from others on Fairfax; has anyone else obtained a degree from them?

    I know it sits in a grey area, I'm just trying to weigh out if its worth paying for it if its only going to help me at my current location.(Programmer, TN, USA)
     
  4. Laser100

    Laser100 New Member

  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Union Institute and University

    Look more closely. There are vast differences between WGU and UIU. They are hardly similar at all.
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    There is a very compelling reason.....TESC, Excelsior, and every other legitimately accredited school almost certainly won't accept you into a graduate program with a Fairfax undergrad degree.

    I very, very strongly suggest that you go with a legitimately accredited program. If it means another year before a pay raise, it's money well spent.
     
  7. etech

    etech New Member

    Please take everyone's advice and dont use a mill to get promotion. I will hurt you later.
     
  8. AWN

    AWN New Member

    I wouldn't call Fairfax a mill, however it doesn't have proper recognition or accreditation. There are numerous legitimately accredited programs available. It may take longer but you won't have any regrets afterwards.

     
  9. Abbacabba

    Abbacabba New Member

    Excelsior gives me 103 hours.. I'm just seeing what my time to 'graduation' is with other schools.

    Fairfax gave me good credit for my life exp. and I just wanted to run the situation by people here.

    I'm checking into any school posted here that will consolidate credits earned at other schools and conisder life works and learning.

    I believe if a school gives me credit due, I'll be closer than excelsior.(I've got over 140 credits earned with multiple schools)


    WGU seems to want another 1.5- 2 years and they cost more than excelsior, I'm prob. going to pass on them.




    I'm trying to get TESC to do a review for me..

    I just wish I could know something before applying and spending $75.


    Thanks for all the help guys.
    John
     
  10. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    There are plenty of "schools" out there that will give you unlimited credit for "life experience." Of course, they would give that same credit to a pigeon, if he had a credit card.

    If you are going to use a fake degree, save yourself a bit of money and make up your own school and print your diploma on your inkjet. It will be just as legitimate.
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    My understanding of Abbacabba's question is that it is essentially an ethics question.

    A real degree will be earned in a year or so. In the meantime, should one use a questionable school to get a raise this year? The cost of the questionable degree will be paid for by the company that will be giving the person a raise.

    So is it worth taking the chance of a timebomb even if the fuse would be active for only one year?

    Perhaps

    Is it an ethically acceptable option?

    In my opinion, no
     
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  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    With that amount of credit, there is a good chance you could knock out the remaining 17 credits with CLEP & DANTES exams in a month or so, depending where your existing credits lie.

    If you post an itemized list of your credits, we can probably draw up a plan to fill in the gaps pretty easily.
     
  13. cmt

    cmt New Member

    I tested out of nearly 30 credits in two days (others have similar stories) - it can be done. I'm sitting on 105 credits now and I fully expect to finish next month. A timebomb free degree, replete with utility, may be closer than you think Abbacabba.
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi Abbacabba:

    Very early on in my involvement with DL I looked at Fairfax with a view to completing a ruined doctorate begun at a singularly corrupt RA university. I did not go with Fairfax and have no regrets at all about that decision. Here are some observations:

    1. Fairfax does have qualified adjunct faculty.

    2. It is staffed mostly by Brits but ostensibly run from Louisiana. Its great luminary, Lord Perry of Walton, is now dead.

    3. Louisiana law, IIRC, says that an unaccredited university may operate only if it's heading toward RA or NA. Fairfax is not.

    4. Fairfax appears to use a religious exemption loophole to weasel through an enormous range of putative programs.

    5. Fairfax appears to require real work.

    6. Its unaccredited status and exploitation of a religious loophole in a lax-licensing state speak extremely poorly of its institutional integrity.

    7. A degree from this school will be of very little usefulness to you even if you can hornswoggle an ignorant employer into paying for it. Since Fairfax will require actual work from you, you might as well get a real degree from an accredited school! As French conventional wisdom had it in the 1930s, why die for Danzig?

    8. The head of Fairfax, Alan Jones, is a rather controversial figure. Use the search function on this site to find out some opinions of him and of his school.

    In short, why waste your time and energy--and your employer's money--for a quickie payoff, when you could waste your time and energy--and your employer's money--for a worthwhile degree from an accredited school? :p Seriously, if you're going to bother, get a degree worth bothering about, which you will never have to explain away, lie about, or wish weren't on your resume because of what that less-than-wonderful degree appears to indicate about your character and competence.

    The cynical old Carpathian wishes you all the best.
     
  15. etech

    etech New Member

     
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  16. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    Most importantly, how do you know that your work will not check out the legitimacy of Fairfax University. If they do, you're sunk. Be prepared to:

    a. lie

    or

    b. admit to being taken in

    or

    c. both



    Tom Nixon
     

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