Hey everyone, It has been along time. Those who don't know me, I was trying to make a decision about attending NCU and became a member of this system. Well, as you can see, I am a student of NCU and my experience to be honest has been a lonely one. My experience with the course work has been fair until I reached the math course Applied stats. I can't see how anyone can do math with instruction. I have experience with other math course I have taken and did well. So when member me again expresses the concerns about stats it is legit. Because of this class I may have to drop out of the phd program. The way the school is, you really don't have alot of contact with other students. I love to instant message and NCU does n't use this. It is frustrating when I have a problem and have to wait until the professor email me back. The instruction for math should be more detailed. Right now it is getting a course outline and completing the work in a timely fashion which is hard. I am considering dropping out. I really can't afford to go to a physical college do to cost and time. So this was my option. NCU students and others I need help......
alpha: Sorry you're having problems with Applied Statistics at NCU. Specifically "not a lot of contact with other students", need for "instant messages", and the need for faster faculty feedback and more detailed instruction. I will call a meeting of the Dept Chairs and course faculty and bring this matter to their attention for immediate action. IF you can email me directly with more details I'll see to it that these problems are corrected so you (and others) can complete the course. My email is [email protected]. Thanks for bringing tihs to our attention. Hang in there and don't drop out of the PhD program. This is a life altering decision. Dr. Don Hecht President Northcentral University
I had an undergraduate statistics course via DL from Columbia Union College (CUC) and it was totally different than NCU's graduate-level stat course. In my undergraduate stat course from CUC, we were issued a wonderful manual that explained many of the difficult concepts in the stat text book. The manual matched the text book chapter-for-chapter. But NCU simply hands the student a stat text book and gives no manual or instruction of any sort. It is a scam (when it is compared to CUC). It was utterly ridiculous. Frankly, I am still relieved to be out of the NCU system.
I just saw the post above mine from the NCU president. We must have posted simultaneously. Anyways, it is good that he is aware of some problems in their teaching methodology.
While I'm sorry that alpha is having trouble (I've had trouble with math too), you've got to admit that having the President of the university respond to your posting on degreeinfo is, shall we say, special? Jack
Jack Tracey wrote: Well if this is indeed the president of NCU responding, (and I don't see any reason to believe that he isn't) then yes! Sounds like NCU is paying serious attention to the comments of their former and current unhappy students in this discussion board. This is a good sign! Lets see what happens next... -S
Yes, at least it appears to be a promising gesture; hopefully, a sincere one at that. Perhaps they will also take this opportunity to shore up the gaps in course substance revealed by meagain, manjuap and a few others. It would certainly go a long way toward repairing credibility. Tom
I can appreciate the difficulties with doing stats in the NCU system. It was the one course with which I struggled and wished that I had some peer interaction. I don't know if you're doing stats in the Psych or Business program,they appear to be diferent courses from the posts here, but there is a ton of statistical stuff on the internet, including some fine tutorials. Keep at it! I'm sure you'll get it done. Peace, FJB
Alpha I met with the Dept Chairs of Business and Psychology and the VP of Academic Affairs and went over the curriculum for MGT5028. The course description on our web site clearly states the purpose for the course, the content and the outcomes expected. This is not a math course; it is a course in how to use statistical analysis in business applications and has been designated MGT to distinguish this important difference. The course is applied, and not theoretical; uses software to generate problem solutions; does not stress formula memorization or calculations; emphasizes how to analyze and apply appropriate statistics to understand professional research, journals, reports, and dissertations; how to apply and interpret statistical analysis in real life business applications. It is a Fundamental Course that is required to begin doctoral programs since you will be required to do reasonable research in subsequent courses. If you can complete a comparable graduate statistics course at another accredited institution, NCU will gladly accept the course and units earned in transfer so you will not have to complete MGT5028. If you decide to complete this requirement at another institution, please consult with your NCU Academic Advisor before taking the course so you can get credit for the course by transfer. You were provided with a Course Outline and a Course Syllabus and the appropriate textbook for the course. Your mentor, Dr. Young, and many fellow learners and those who completed the course are available online and in the course Chatroom to offer assistance. In addition, Dr. Young can provide additional online references and collateral sources to aid in your understanding. When you go to your Learner’s MGT5028 course page, you’ll find a list of approximately 30 fellow learners enrolled in the same course with their email addresses so you can contact them. You’ll also find a list of learners who have successfully completed this course with email addresses for contact. There is also a course Discussion Board where you can read past postings on the course and where you can post questions or comments for fellow course-mates. You have Dr. Young’s email address so you should be in email contact with him throughout the entire course so you get the feedback you need. Please make use of these resources. On your Learner’s page for each course (including MGT5028) there is an Online Chatroom that provides opportunity for synchronous conversations with you and any number of learners and faculty enrolled in the course. You can schedule these real-time chats with other learners at your convenience or join-in on existing chats. You can request your mentor, Dr. Young, to hold real-time meetings with you and other interested learners to cover issues that need faculty involvement or learner interaction. These real-time “online classroom” sessions should be scheduled in advance. We encourage sharing among learners since this is how colleagues communicate in the real world. Dr. Young is especially responsive to learner needs so contact him. Don’t be intimidated by statistics; it’s really quite logical, understandable and very useful once you gain experience in applying it. Sincerely, Dr. Don Hecht President NCU
Decision Becoming a Little Clearer You know, I have applied to NCU...and at this point I don't know whether I will be accepted or not. But, I have been a member of this Discussion Board since February 2001 and I have never witnessed a School President chime in to address an issue before. That is pretty refreshing! I guess that helps me in my decision-making process a lot because I know that problems will be handled in a more-than-adequate manner. But, let's get me into the program before I start singing praises! Mike A/S Burlington County College, NJ (Part of NJIT) B/A Thomas A. Edison State College, NJ MS Southwest Missouri State
Re: Re: ncu experience teeheee As the son of Sadistics Professor... er statistic professor and mathmatically challenged individual i have never thought that Stat was fun, but what do I know. I am glad though that this situation has be resolved. Good for NCU.
NCU Website The new look for the NCU website looks much better - they must have just changed it. http://www.ncu.edu
I will be starting the Ph D - BA program very soon. I completed the admissions process and received the course materials for LS6010. I'll pass on my experiences as I go along. I remember the reputation Nova (Southeastern) University had in the '70s - '80s. I fully expect NCU to have growing pains.
Vical: What you said about Nova Southeastern University is correct. To date, no regionally accredited school (traditional and non-traditional) has faced the nature and level of onslaughts that were directed at Nova in the 70s and 80s. Despite receiving various legitimate accreditations (RA, ABA, APA, etc) in the early 70s, the academia continued to sandbag and thrash Nova until the late 80s. Compared with NCU, I believe that more disdainful things were said about Nova in its early days, especially by ignorant and pompous academics. At present most of that have changed. NCU is a new school. The reputation of NCU as well the quality of its programs will improve over time. We should give them a chance. Ike Okonkwo, PhD (Nova Southeastern University)
