Asia Pacific Int'l University

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  1. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    I'm a DBA student with Asia Pacific International University at overseas. I've just completed my dissertation, but I've lost contacts with the APIU. I cannot contact the registrar nor any academic staff by means of emails and phonecalls. Do you have any updated information about APIU, please help!
     
  2. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

  3. manjuap

    manjuap New Member

    How come Mailing Address and Physical Address are different?

    Mailing Address: Mezzanine One, 970 Burrard Street
    Vancouver, BC, Ca V6Z2R4

    Physical Address: 155 Cyril Magnin St
    San Francisco, Ca 94102-2129
     
  4. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    How to contact APIU

    Can anybody at San Francisco and Vancouver check the above addresses for me, to see whether APIU is still active?

    Can any APIU faculty and student give me more information?

    Thanks!
     
  5. jerryclick

    jerryclick New Member

    U.S. University Resource:

    University name: Asia Pacific International University (APIU)

    University URL: http://www.apiu.edu


    University Directory URL: Not Available


    Address: 155 Cyril Magnin Street, San Francisco CA 94102

    Email: [email protected]

    Phone Number: (415) 688.3115
     
  6. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    How to contact APIU?

    Thanks for the information. But, the above website has not been updated for over 2 years, and the email address and phone number are no more at service. More investigation is appreciated.
     
  7. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    A 2001 website lists them at 250 4th Street, Lower Level
    San Francisco, CA 94103, but they aren't there any more either.

    I'll go by the two addresses (they are close to each other) this coming week and see if there is any evidence -- signs, etc. -- to say what has happened.

    John Bear
     
  8. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    Thank you all, especially Dr. Bear!
     
  9. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Agent Bear reporting

    Visit on Sept. 29, 10 am. 155 Cyril Magnin in San Francisco is an attractive long narrow 2-story building in the heart of downtown. Restaurant and snack bar downstairs. Appears to be a single tenant upstairs (based on window treatment). The door into the stairway has a large professional permanent-looking Asia Pacific International University sign above it. Door locked. Stairs cluttered with debris. Small notice on the door says deliveries to be made around the corner at 156 Ellis. That door, also locked, leads to a small elevator lobby. Nice bronze plaque outside door, with school name, and "Member, Asia Pacific Institutes." Door was locked. Lobby looked unkempt. The Korean man at the snack bar next door said he heard they had moved to Vancouver. End of report.
     
  10. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Re: Agent Bear reporting

    This post will self-destruct in five seconds (where's Lalo Schifrin when you need him?). :D
     
  11. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    APIU

    Dr Bear
    Thank you very much!
    In my case, what can I do? Or just try to forget the 6 years work on the DBA program (coursework and dissertation completed).
     
  12. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Could you not try to track some of the individuals listed in the literature.
     
  13. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Mr. Chan: n my case, what can I do? Or just try to forget the 6 years work...
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    No simple answer. If the school still existed, it should be findable through internet searches. So even if you found out what happened to them

    1. As Dennis suggests, communicate with every faculty and administrator you can find. Surely a place the size they appeared to be must have many other students in comparable situations. Some of the faculty or staff must know something.

    2. See if any of the credit and transcript evaluation services can help find them. There may well be one or more who has information. There are a dozen or more such services, and they don't all operate in the same way.

    3. See if any of those services, are willing to look at all the work you did (assuming you have your various papers, exams, dissertation, other things done) to see if they will give a credit equivalency.

    4. Explore this Asia Pacific Institutes matter; there were other schools or locations that were part of it, in Vancouver and New Zealand. A search in Google for that name finds dozens of hits, including ones that list dozens and dozens of faculty, staff, administrators, etc., including the Chancellor, the immediate past president of Open University and a Provost at Oxford. These are findable people.

    5. Any responsible school that goes out of business deposits its records and archives either with another school or with the state. See if California's Bureau for Private Postsecondary has any information.

    6. If all else fails, since you were apparently content to end up with an unaccredited degree from APIU, search for other legal unaccredited schools that might be willing to give equivalent credit for the work you did. When I was with Greenwich 13 years ago, there were two cases in which people came to us with 99% of their doctoral work done. One had exceeded the 7-year limit at his RA school. His committee had unanimously approved his dissertation work, but the deadline was inflexible. The other had analyzed data from 100 research subjects (her husband's cardiology patients), but her husband died and she was unable to access the final 100 patients. All five members of her committee at an RA school believed that 100 was enough, but the department head vetoed that. All five committee members agreed to sign on to the Greenwich faculty solely for the purpose of evaluating and approving this woman's work. So Greenwich awarded the Ph.D. to these two people 100% for work done previously. I have no idea if Greenwich, now back in Hawaii, would still consider such a thing, or if it would be of any interest for you -- but this kind of thing is theoretically possible at some unaccredited but legal schools.

    Let us know what you learn and what you decide to do. It could be of help to others as well.
     
  14. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    Reply to Dr Bear

    I will follow your advice, much thanks!
     
  15. Raymond Chan

    Raymond Chan New Member

    Seeking more advice from Dr. Bear

    Dear Dr. Bear

    In fact, before posting this thread, I have made a lot of enquires, but received no answers. Anyway, I will try every effort to contact APIU again.

    If I failed, I think your suggestion no. 6 is a fast track to end up the whole story.

    Respectfully, I will consider Greenwich University at the first place. What about California Pacific University, as Dr Dave Wagner highly recommended its DBA Program to Tomseller at another thread.

    Which University?
    How to Compare?
    Any more options?

    Best Regards
     
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  16. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Ahah, what fun. So we can each recommend an unaccredited school without guilt, because Raymond has already bought in to the unaccredited degree thing? OK, how about http://fairfaxu.edu/. Less dubious, IMHO, than Greenwich, given the latter's recent history.
     
  17. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Fairfax? Well, if someone said that the school behind curtain number 3 had Lord Perry of Walton, key person behind the Open University, as its Chancellor, I'd said, "Hey, that place must be OK." Fairfax does. But I still can't figure out where they get (or claim to get) their authorization to grant degrees.

    Mr. Chan: You said you would be doing your own research for a while. Asking about every school you come upon may not be the best sort of research. My belief is that California schools are, by law, only allowed to give 25% of the credit for a doctoral degree for work done elsewhere.
     

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