University of the State of New York

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  1. USA

    USA New Member

    Does anyone know anything about this university and its awards?
     
  2. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    It is now Excelsior College; check Excelsior. edu for more info.
     
  3. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    It's not a "university" in the familiar sense. It's an umbrella organization more or less synonymous with the New York State Department of Education. All New York State licensed universities and colleges, along with children's schools, museums, libraries, and TV stations, are members of the USNY.
    http://usny.nysed.gov/aboutusny.html#who
     
  4. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    "The University of the State of New York is an actual university, originally founded in 1784. Its first, more traditional degree-granting arm was Columbia College (established in 1754 under royal charter, shut down during the Revolutionary War, and rebooted as a college of the USNY). Columbia College went private in 1810 or thereabouts and became the prestigious Columbia University. Over time the USNY gradually took on a more vocational role, granting firefighter certificates and such. In 1971, the USNY fired up a new degree-granting program, this time a nontraditional bachelor's completion program called Regents College. That program went private in 1997, and became the Excelsior College we know and love today."
    -- Tom Head, http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=73736#post73736
     
  5. 9Chris

    9Chris New Member

    SUNY (State University of New York) is a unified system of public higher education with 64 campuses enrolling close to 400,000 students.

    You can go here to find out about SUNY and the schools that fall under the umbrella

    http://www.suny.edu/
     
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  6. etech

    etech New Member

    Does Excelsior College degrees and transcripts have a stamp and logo of USNY ? or does it have Excelsior College's own
     
  7. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    -- Lawrie Miller, http://geocities.com/BA_in_4_Weeks/readersquestions.html
     
  8. calidris

    calidris New Member

    I've encountered this confusion between USNY and SUNY many times over the past few years. It often comes up when I tell people I'm enrolled in Excelsior College, which most people have never heard of, and I try and explain Excelsior College to them. My wife continues to tell people I'm getting on "online degree" even though I have never taken an "online course" for credit towards my degree and have been enrolled in Excelsior's BS-CIS by exam-only option for over two years.

    From the link provided by MarkIsrael at
    http://usny.nysed.gov/aboutusny.html#who

    "The University of the State of New York (USNY) is not the same as The State University of New York (SUNY). SUNY is the State's system of public colleges and universities. While the SUNY system is part of the 248 colleges and universities included in The University of the State of New York, SUNY is a separate and distinct organization with its own administration."

    And minor footnote: my id card from Excelsior College says:
    Excelsior College
    Member of the University of the State of New York
     
  9. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

     
  10. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    USNY also issues professional licenses. My dentist, physician, and pharmacist all have framed licenses issued by the University of the State of New York.

    According to the website, Athletic Trainers, Interior Decorators, Massage Therapists, and other professions are licensed in New York by USNY.

    It would be less confusing if they used a name such as NY Education Commission.
     
  11. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Yet it seems to me we risk making this whole subject less confusing. That clearly will not do . . .

    Some time after Regents College was created as an external "program" of the University of the State of New York, it became a college - a constituent college - of the University of the State of New York. Just as, say, Christ College, Cambridge, is a constituent college of the University of Cambridge.

    At that time, degrees were conferred exclusively in the name of USNY. Here, USNY was acting in its capacity as a university, and exercising its right to confer degrees. Regents College was a mere appendage.

    Sometime thereafter, Regents College, the constituent college of the University of the State of New York, separated from the university, and became an independent college with the right to confer its own degrees.

    That right was granted to Regents College by the University of the State of New York acting in its capacity as the New York State regulatory authority.

    Regents College at that point became a "Member of the University of the State of New York", where the title or name, "University of the State of New York", refers to the aforementioned New York State regulatory body, and not to the institution that had hitherto granted the degrees, and where "member", means, “listed as an institution or organization, authorized to certify select competencies”.

    As a condition of separation, Regents College was obliged by USNY, to give up the name, "Regents College", within three years of that separation. Clearly, USNY in its capacity as a degree granting university, wanted to distance itself from the new independent college, lest there be any confusion about who was conferring what degrees upon whom.

    Fulfilling that requirement sometime thereafter, in a stroke of marketing genius, Regent's management renamed the college, "Excelsior". That this stumped many who confused it with a cheap fortified wine produced in the Transvaal, gave no pause to the gurus in Albany. It was full steam ahead. Onward and upward. Excelsior!



    Lawrie Miller
    http://bain4weeks.com
    BS Regents College of the University of the State of New York <1st degree conferred before separation>
    BS Regents College, Member of the University of the State of New York <2nd degree conferred after separation>
    How many do you think would spot the difference, and do you think it was ever the intention that they should?
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