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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Heiks View Post
    Hmm. If I recall correctly, there was a recent accounting thread that said that Kennesaw State University and Jacksonville State University offer online/DL/short residency AACSB DBAs in Accounting.
    So far as I know that's not the case, at least near as can be told from the website. Both appear to be like most DBA programs, practitioner-based and vaguely aligned with business leadership. Nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure someone could do their research into the area of accounting leadership and maybe an arrangement could be made to have an accounting concentration offered--I have no way of knowing, even though I teach at a uni not far from either, don't know anyone very well at either of those b-schools.

    But even if the degree was specifically entitled "DBA in Accounting " I don't know how that would refute my claim that "there are no AACSB accredited distance accounting PhDs available in the world."
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    Very interesting thread. I echo the sentiment of many that faculty with accounting doctorates are extremely difficult to find. If you are in one of the 11 southern states, a masters degree in accounting will typically allow you to teach courses at the undergraduate level only. Teaching at the masters level or above requires a doctorate (preferably in the area to be taught). The degree title really does not matter, as there are many faculty--both full-time and adjunct with DBAs.

    I wouldn't be concerned about the degree title. A DBA will work just fine. A group of colleagues and I conducted the first large-scale national study of DBA vs. PhD programs that were both regionally and programmatically accredited (AACSB, IACBE and ACBSP). Notwithstanding the claims that the DBA is an "applied" or "practitioner" degree, we found little difference between DBA and PhD programs. Also, we found a few hundred faculty with DBAs. Now, we were looking at management and general business programs, but in our data collection, we actually noticed a higher quantity of accounting faculty with DBAs. That may become a follow-up study.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Pina View Post
    ..in our data collection, we actually noticed a higher quantity of accounting faculty with DBAs. That may become a follow-up study.
    Our last hire, in the area of taxation , has a DBA from Middling State U. He makes over $150K.

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    Clayton Christensen of Harvard, the guru of disruptive innovation, has a DBA and it does not seem to have disadvantaged him at all. I have been in a similar situation. I started a Ph.D. at one institution, accepted a job transfer, and finished with an Ed.D. at another institution. It has not been an issue in my career at all. Part of our study was to look at whether the U.S. Department of Education , the six regional accrediting agencies and the three programmatic agencies (AACSB, ACBSP and IACBE) distinguished between the D.B.A. and Ph.D. in business. Spoiler alert: they treated the two degrees identically.
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    Form reading what his institute puts out, I think Christensen is more a guru of self-promotion, but that doesn't dispute your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Pina View Post
    I wouldn't be concerned about the degree title. A DBA will work just fine. A group of colleagues and I conducted the first large-scale national study of DBA vs. PhD programs that were both regionally and programmatically accredited (AACSB, IACBE and ACBSP). Notwithstanding the claims that the DBA is an "applied" or "practitioner" degree, we found little difference between DBA and PhD programs. Also, we found a few hundred faculty with DBAs. Now, we were looking at management and general business programs, but in our data collection, we actually noticed a higher quantity of accounting faculty with DBAs. That may become a follow-up study.
    Anthony,

    I read two of the articles based on the study that you and your colleagues conducted. It was very informative, thank you.

    Now that I feel comfortable pursuing a DBA, FTFaculty mention in post #10 that he leans towards programs that are academic research focused. Similarly, on one of Anthony's articles, he has a table with several DBA programs that shows if the DBA of a specific school can prepare students for Academe (e.g., Jacksonville University, Yes; Temple University, No).

    I prefer to enter a program close to home/work (Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) with AACSB accreditation. However, after some research, I am interested in Jacksonville's DBA program because I like the way it is structured, the low travel cost, residency dates, and low tuition cost. But I would appreciate anyone's opinion on how Drexel 's new DBA program (DBA Plan of Study) compares to Jacksonville's program.

    I appreciate the discussion, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonEducation View Post
    Anthony,

    I read two of the articles based on the study that you and your colleagues conducted. It was very informative, thank you.

    Now that I feel comfortable pursuing a DBA, FTFaculty mention in post #10 that he leans towards programs that are academic research focused. Similarly, on one of Anthony's articles, he has a table with several DBA programs that shows if the DBA of a specific school can prepare students for Academe (e.g., Jacksonville University, Yes; Temple University, No).

    I prefer to enter a program close to home/work (Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) with AACSB accreditation. However, after some research, I am interested in Jacksonville's DBA program because I like the way it is structured, the low travel cost, residency dates, and low tuition cost. But I would appreciate anyone's opinion on how Drexel 's new DBA program (DBA Plan of Study) compares to Jacksonville's program.

    I appreciate the discussion, thanks.
    It's nice to know that people are reading the articles. The studies took quite a while :-)
    Anthony Piña, Ed.D.
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