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    Ed.D Doctoral Degree. Best/cheapest/accredited program for working principal w/ kids

    I am a 28 year old assistant principal at an elementary school. I have my master's degree and administrative certificate (type 75) for K-12. I have 2 kids, a 3 year old and a newborn. I have wanted to get my doctorate since I can remember. I want to start it soon while my kids are young and still at home the majority of the time.

    I am not afraid of hard work...but...it is hard to find objective opinions of Ed.D programs from colleges. Everyone wants your $40-70K.

    Is anyone in a program that they believe is one that is possible with a demanding career and family? I want something that is accredited but also the best fit for my career, family, and myself. Cost is also important. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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    $40K is crazy. Don't do it!

    Cheaper alternatives include Northeastern University, the University of West Georgia, and the University of the Cumberlands in Kentucky.

    Also, if you're interested in educational technology there are a few more, let us know.
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    Steve,

    I for one would LOVE to know about the one's in the educational technology field. That is much more up my alley than the standard "higher education leadership" concentrations, but I haven't seen them. Any info you have would be great.

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    I'm not exactly a fan of Liberty , but they're program is a little cheaper than what you've posted. It's about $31k, and they allow you to transfer courses in which could bring your price down if you have coursework that could apply to the degree.

    I'm actually about to give the University of the Cumberlands a try. I'm in the application process at the moment.

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    I could be wrong but I thought Tennessee Temple University, Grand Canyon University , and...another that I thought was named after a person but I can not remember the name were reasonable and online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjon77 View Post
    I for one would LOVE to know about the one's in the educational technology field. That is much more up my alley than the standard "higher education leadership" concentrations, but I haven't seen them. Any info you have would be great.
    Boise State University has an EdD in Educational Technology, and Old Dominion University has a PhD in Instructional Design and Technology. I know the former has in state tuition for everyone, but I'm not sure about ODU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Boise State University has an EdD in Educational Technology, and Old Dominion University has a PhD in Instructional Design and Technology. I know the former has in state tuition for everyone, but I'm not sure about ODU.

    Thanks, Steve!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Boise State University has an EdD in Educational Technology, and Old Dominion University has a PhD in Instructional Design and Technology. I know the former has in state tuition for everyone, but I'm not sure about ODU.
    Yes, ODU gives in-state tuition to out of state students in their online programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrent View Post
    I'm not exactly a fan of Liberty, but they're program is a little cheaper than what you've posted. It's about $31k, and they allow you to transfer courses in which could bring your price down if you have coursework that could apply to the degree.
    I was assuming the person was primarily interested in doctoral programs focused on K-12. I believe Liberty 's EdD is focused more on higher education . But if that's okay then Liberty is definitely below the $40K mark!
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    American College of Education offers program, but I'm not sure about the details. I believe it's a cheap option, but you'll have to research it. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DxD=D^2 View Post
    American College of Education offers program, but I'm not sure about the details. I believe it's a cheap option, but you'll have to research it. ;)
    They do, but neither of their tracks is focused on K-12, and they don't participate in federal student loan programs, which might put their otherwise relatively low fees out of reach for many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    I was assuming the person was primarily interested in doctoral programs focused on K-12. I believe Liberty's EdD is focused more on higher education. But if that's okay then Liberty is definitely below the $40K mark!
    From what I recall when I was looking around, Liberty 's was a generic Education Leadership program, but there were a few elective classes that could be taken to focus on either K-12 or Higher Ed. I do not, however, believe it leads to licensure, although since she is already a principal, that shouldn't be an issue.

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    Thank you everyone. I got a message about Taft University but I have read some pretty bad reviews. I want something that is recognized by NCATE. I am looking into all of your suggestions. Yes, I am looking at the leadership in K-12 but I would be willing to do a "transformational leadership" or a degree to that nature to perhaps eventually be involved in a non-profit organization or business.

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    Matt

    Im interested in tghe University of the Cumberlands how did it go there

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyt1961 View Post
    Matt

    Im interested in tghe University of the Cumberlands how did it go there
    It's going great! I'm in my 6th class and enjoying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    I was assuming the person was primarily interested in doctoral programs focused on K-12. I believe Liberty's EdD is focused more on higher education. But if that's okay then Liberty is definitely below the $40K mark!
    I finished an Ed.S. from LU this summer and have taken a couple of classes this fall. I can say that if anything the LU program tends toward K-12. I'd say that in a given class, 80% or more of the students are in K-12 environments. The assignments at times are K-12 oriented (without a higher education option), and the rest could go either way. I don't recall any assignments that were higher ed. only without a K-12 option.

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