Thread: Best Evangelical Seminary

Originally Posted by graymatter

Now LU and the Roman Catholic church are both Armenian? Interesting. I'll bow out on the theological discussions and stick with looking for more DL teaching opportunities...

Not technically in either case, of course, but LU is closer to Arminian than it is Calvinist (apart from the loss of salvation angle). The RCC isn't Arminian, either, (as it is not a Protestant church) but it is generally synergistic in its understanding of salvation.

Originally Posted by xtrabusy

Friendorfoe, your theological persuasion is revealed in your choices. Moody and Liberty would be both Arminian-inclined seminaries, whereas I would be more inclined toward a Reformed or neutral seminary. Any suggestions in that line?

Honestly I had no idea what the differences were until I googled it. I told you I wasn't a "seminary kind of guy" nor am I a theologian. To be perfectly honest I find highly dogmatic people of faith to be missing the point but I guess there is the inevitability of it since Revelations speaks to 7 distinct churches, I can only assume the distinctions were on minor differences in belief rather than geographical location but that's probably another debate entirely.

I read the 5 points of Armenian-ism and do not disagree with any except the belief that one can lose their salvation...I for one do not believe this is possible, though I do think that some people who claim to be "saved" are in fact not. With Calvinism I do not believe every believer is pre-ordained by God and he picks his people. I honestly have not researched this much but even from Genesis God has placed a great deal of importance upon people voluntarily choosing to follow him (free will). Choosing who he will save and not save is inconsistant with that theme. Again...not a theologian, just a layman who reads the Bible.

Originally Posted by StefanM

Not technically in either case, of course, but LU is closer to Arminian than it is Calvinist (apart from the loss of salvation angle). The RCC isn't Arminian, either, (as it is not a Protestant church) but it is generally synergistic in its understanding of salvation.

I read somewhere where a Reformed Theologian (Calvinist) called the Roman Catholic perspective "warmed over semi Pelagianism".

Originally Posted by friendorfoe

I read the 5 points of Armenian-ism and do not disagree with any except the belief that one can lose their salvation...I for one do not believe this is possible, though I do think that some people who claim to be "saved" are in fact not. With Calvinism I do not believe every believer is pre-ordained by God and he picks his people. I honestly have not researched this much but even from Genesis God has placed a great deal of importance upon people voluntarily choosing to follow him (free will). Choosing who he will save and not save is inconsistant with that theme.

These points are certainly consistent with a place like Liberty .

If one has the free will to follow, do they then abandon their free will such that they cannot then choose not to follow? I never quite grasped the logic in a once-saved-always-saved position. Either grace is "irresistable" or its not. It seems more consistent with Scripture to me that no one forfeits their choice to reject a gift once accepted.

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