Cleveland Institute of Electronics (cont'd)

Discussion in 'IT and Computer-Related Degrees' started by Shunyata, Feb 9, 2003.

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  1. Shunyata

    Shunyata New Member

    After I heard about CIE on this forum I went to their website and liked very much what I saw. So simple and clear! I think that in technical education conciseness is a must... :D

    Browsing through the site I concluded that for reasonable fees and hard work, one should be able to get technical education with an associate degree in electronics. I like it.

    However, looking further I noted that their programming classes teach nothing but C, and the technical level they consider necessary for following their computer based courses is "knowledge of basic DOS operation". That seems quite outdated.

    Do anyone know if this school has stayed up to its reputation? (According to the previous post on the subject this school used to provide "top notch electronics education" ).

    Sorry for the long post and thank you for responding.:confused:
     
  2. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    CIE is probably a good choice if your goal is to become an electronics technician and a poor choice if your goal is to extend the CIE degree to a university degree.

    On the other hand, you should be correct in your statement about reasonable fees for hard work. In the degree program they advertise that they charge for the time taken to complete the degree rather than by courses taken.
     
  3. wfready

    wfready New Member

    I agree with Decimon,

    If you want to be an electronics technician, then an associates degree in electronics is the route to go. Technicians are always playing important roles in manufacturing, research & development, etc. (things break and people need to fix them to have operations). The only obstacle would be that w/o a more advanced degree, you are usually limited to the role as technician . If you would want to progress to higher positions such as mangement or engineering it is harder to market yourself for promotion. If you wished to pursue a bachelor's degree it would be harder to transfer to a 4 year institution w/ an NA degree then it would be with an electronics degree from an RA community college.

    With all this crap said, there's nothing wrong with career techs. They often make MORE money than their direct mangement (exempt vs. nonexempt) and your job is usually a little less boring than a job based in a cubical.

    Hope this helps,
    Bill
     
  4. wfready

    wfready New Member

    I agree with Decimon,

    If you want to be an electronics technician, then an associates degree in electronics is the route to go. Technicians are always playing important roles in manufacturing, research & development, etc. (things break and people need to fix them to have operations). The only obstacle would be that w/o a more advanced degree, you are usually limited to the role as technician . If you would want to progress to higher positions such as management or engineering it is harder to market yourself for promotion. If you wished to pursue a bachelor's degree it would be harder to transfer to a 4 year institution w/ an NA degree then it would be with an electronics degree from an RA community college.

    With all that crap said, there's nothing wrong with career techs. They often make MORE money than their direct mangement (exempt vs. nonexempt) and your job is usually a little less boring than a job based in a cubical.

    Hope this helps,
    Bill
     
  5. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    From personal experience I'd say that the market for electronic techs is at a low point in the US. Japan, with its dearth of youth, may be another story.
     
  6. wfready

    wfready New Member

    With out a doubt. There are some companies that are still hiring, however. Medical electronics and utilities are two fields I can think of off the top of my head that have opportunities. Of course, they probably do not pay too well and are VERY selective on who they choose for employment. Tough times we live in these days. I myself am defying the laws of layoff physics and will probably be looking for an electronics job some where soon.... :eek:

    Best Regards,

    Bill
     
  7. Shunyata

    Shunyata New Member

    Thank you everyone for your input. This is a nice forum indeed.
    :)
     
  8. vnazaire

    vnazaire Member

    you can get a 4-year degree through CIE

    CIE grants a 4-year Baccalaureate degree in Technology through the World College and all credits earned in CIE are transferred !
    This Bac. gets you an entry-level engineer position in Manufacturing.
     
  9. wfready

    wfready New Member

    Vnazaire,

    Have you landed a job in engineering with this degree (ie engineering technology)? I am curious on how many engineering tech grads pursue engineering positions instead of tech/senior tech and para engineering jobs. Some employers are (it seems) biased towards candidates with engineering degrees as opposed to engineering technology (probably due to the fact that alot of BSET degrees lack math and theory and are more applied in nature [I guess like comparing a computer science degree with an information technology degree]).

    Best Regards,
    Bill Ready
     
  10. vnazaire

    vnazaire Member

    Engineering positions for NA B.E.E.T graduates

    Hi Bill, check the booklet put out every year for the past 14 years by DETC " Outstanding graduates of DETC institutions ", generally about 30 graduates.
    Brian D. Zechman from Towanda,Pennsylvania earned his Bachelor of Electronic Engineering Technology after 4 years of study with World College, affiliate of CIE.
    It " ... Allowed Brian to be promoted from a maintenance position to an ENGINEERING position. He is now a Process Controls ENGINEER at E.I. Dupont. ... assigned the responsibility of initiating a large DC drive replacement project. "
    There you have it Bill !
    Regards,
     

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