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    Even though the MLS from Fort Hays looks decent as far as classes, I'd much rather have a MSIS for the $1700 difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcons05 View Post
    Long post, I know, but I started the thread because I was in the same position many of you were - looking for a Masters in IT that wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg, was online, etc. I have 0 regrets about picking MSU and have been impressed with both the instructors and the staff there.
    Yeah, a lot of us are in that position or one similar. I appreciate you posting this.

    Is it possible to work and do the full-time course load with Minot?

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    I have only taken a single class per session so far, but my schedule is ramping up to take multiples per session starting in a few weeks. And yes, I do work full-time, so we'll see how that goes. But I haven't felt overwhelmed at all by any single class and have been able to get my schoolwork done with few if any issues due to conflicts or time.

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    you are right, in the end...a MSIS is better than MLS . Do you have to be very knowledge with tech (like have certs) to become an administrator within technology instead of the technology person

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    I wanted to add a bit of detail to this post for those of you who already have a graduate degree and are looking to obtain a second Masters degree. I recently applied to Minot State's MSIS program (last week) and am looking forward to starting the program. I just graduated in December 2011 with an MBA with a concentration in Information Assurance & Security Management from a brick & mortar school (3.94 GPA) and luckily Minot State said they would transfer over 3 of my classes (Info Mgmt, Networking , Databases). So I will only have to complete 7 classes to obtain my MSIS with a cost of approx $7,000. So if you already have a graduate degree in IS, IT, or CS this would be a good choice if you want to transfer credits.

    I did a lot of research and this looks like a very good program for working IT business professionals looking to move into leadership and management roles. Already having a MBA in IA, I'm looking to use this degree to fill some gaps in my education I missed studying InfoSec and make me more marketable (Graduate Exertise in Business Admin, InfoSec and General IT Mgmt). I plan on starting the program this fall and completing it in 1 academic year. As I progress through the program, I'll be sure to post my experience on here and compare it to my B&M graduate education .
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    do you think minot's program or MS IT Network Management Course of Study is betteR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduflow View Post
    do you think minot's program or MS IT Network Management Course of Study is betteR?
    They are really two different programs so it depends on what you want to do with it

    I see the Minot program as IT Management, Database Management , Development Management or Project Management

    I see the WGU program as IT Management, Network Management, Infrastructure Management

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    so basically if a person would go for the WGU IT degree, they should have a CCNA for example right? would it seem that a person that would go for that degree would be required to have that for the jobs they would apply?

    also there are many computer adjunct positions that say they need a person with computer, IT, etc degree. which would be better for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduflow View Post
    also there are many computer adjunct positions that say they need a person with computer, IT, etc degree. which would be better for that?
    That's the question I would also like to know.

    What's needed to teach an undergrad introductory database class? Will any MSIS, MSIT , MSCS, MSSE degree suffice? Does the degree need to have one or more graduate level database classes? If the degree doesn't have a graduate level database class will work experience be acceptable? Is there a difference if the database class was an advanced database concepts class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduflow View Post
    so basically if a person would go for the WGU IT degree, they should have a CCNA for example right? would it seem that a person that would go for that degree would be required to have that for the jobs they would apply?

    also there are many computer adjunct positions that say they need a person with computer, IT, etc degree. which would be better for that?
    Minot State's MSIS program is less technical in nature and more focused on the business aspects of IT Management while WGU 's IT degree is more technical. So the two degrees are much different. Minot State's degree prepares you more for a leadership role, while WGU 's degree prepares you to be more hands-on at an operational level.

    I chose Minot State's degree because that is the route I want to go; I'm no longer in operations and now a Cybersecurity Business Analyst looking to move into management. Additionally, while both schools are Regionally-accredited, Minot State is an B&M school with an actual campus and WGU is on-line ony...so in the academic world it has distance-only school stigma attached to it, which is not good if you want to teach.

    To answer you question about adjuncting, it depends on where and what you want to teach. If you want to teach Business Information Systems classes within a School of Business, Minot State's degree is preferrable. If you want to teach in a Comp Sci or Technical School (ITT Tech ), WGU 's degree would be more preferrable, especially with the certs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jam937 View Post
    That's the question I would also like to know.

    What's needed to teach an undergrad introductory database class? Will any MSIS, MSIT, MSCS, MSSE degree suffice? Does the degree need to have one or more graduate level database classes? If the degree doesn't have a graduate level database class will work experience be acceptable? Is there a difference if the database class was an advanced database concepts class?
    I think it depends where you want to teach. Technical schools (ITT Tech ), community colleges, and 4-year universities have different requirements. I teach at a 4-year university where I obtained my MBA and was near the very top of my graduate class. Moreover, the department head taught several of my classes and was impressed with my work. On top of that I have 10+ years of experience and industry certs. Because the university I teach at is AACSB-accredited, I can teach lower-division undergraduate courses with my graduate degree, my certs, and my professional experience. However, upper division and graduate courses are usually only taught by PhDs who are academically qualified.

    I have never taught anywhere else, so I don't know outside of my university. But I have looked at community colleges and they usually require a Bachelors with an several years of experience or a Masters or PhD. I have also read on these forums that many schools require 15-18 units of graduate courses in the area.

    So to answer your question, yes a graduate course would most likely be required and your degree should be tailored to the environment you want to teach in.
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    from what I am thinking, MSIS is good for people who have computer experience but want to grow. The WGU degree and other more technical degrees are good for people who currently have solid hands on experience and may have a cert like CCNA, but want to grow more into management level hands on areas.

    It would not make sense for someone with no cert or solid experience to study a heavy technical masters like the one offered by WGU .

    you guys agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam937 View Post
    That's the question I would also like to know.

    What's needed to teach an undergrad introductory database class? Will any MSIS, MSIT, MSCS, MSSE degree suffice? Does the degree need to have one or more graduate level database classes? If the degree doesn't have a graduate level database class will work experience be acceptable? Is there a difference if the database class was an advanced database concepts class?
    Depends on where you're looking to teach.

    Some schools will want exactly 18 hours in exactly the program name and/or prefix they use at that institution. Others won't care as long as the degree generally covers what they're looking to teach (e.g. private technical training schools).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam937 View Post
    Even though the MLS from Fort Hays looks decent as far as classes, I'd much rather have a MSIS for the $1700 difference.
    FHSU's program is an MPS now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gettingthere View Post
    FHSU's program is an MPS now.
    Got a link for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seduflow View Post
    It would not make sense for someone with no cert or solid experience to study a heavy technical masters like the one offered by WGU.
    Just to clarify things, the WGU MS-ISA is very technical, while their other IT-related master's degrees are more management-oriented. They are:
    Online IT Network Degree | MS in Network Management
    MBA in Technology Management | Online MBA | WGU College of Business Online

    IMO, the network management degree is a good program, but may limit the graduate to certain infrastructure-related roles. The MBA -ITM would possibly help some folks move upward further in their careers, not to mention possibly open up teaching opportunities.

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