I just went to the itdegree.com website and noticed that they now list some of the MCSA/MCSE exams for Windows Server 2003 as eligible for credit. I checked a few weeks ago and they only had Windows 2000 Server exams listed.
Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? If they give ANY credit for junk like MCSE and the like, then they are in serious risk of losing accreditation. Microsoft certifications are garbage. Any monkey that can type and attend a week long "boot camp" can get one.
Re: Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? then what is not crap according to your judgement ? all IT certifications can be achieved in such a way so I believe all are crap ?
Re: Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? I received about 15 credits from COSC for my Microsoft and CompTIA certifications. I have my MCP+I, MCSE NT 4.0, MCSA and i would not say Any monkey that can type and attend a week long "boot camp" can get one. I am a bit offended by such a angry statement. Did someone with a certification get promoted over you or did you fail a test and this is your way to justify it and feel better about yourself?
How many and what certs do you have? I have MCSE Win2000 and MCSA Win2003 and had to spend quite a bit of time studying for these certs . I think you owe us an apology.
Re: Re: Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? The CompTIA certs are worth credits because they do require serious study (To answer someone else, I have Security+, ITProject+, and CTT+), but I stand by my position that Microsoft certs are crap - all you need to know is how to use the GUI, not understanding any underlying principles. I have had many conversations with "SQL DBA's" who knew absolutely NOTHING about databases. Most of them have never even heard of normalization. No, no one has been promoted over me and I have never failed a test (sorry!). I am an Oracle Certified DBA (yes, I know, Oracle people hate Microsoft), but I have also worked as DBA on SQL Server, Sybase, and DB2, as well as other databases. I stand by my position that anyone who can get through a week long "boot camp" can pass a Microsoft cert, and that's all it's really worth.
Re: Re: Re: Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? You have to know more than a GUI, most of the tests are not interactive so you must understand the concept not just find the TIME AND DATE icon to change the time. Why don't you take one of the tests and see. As far as the CompTIA tests, they were easy. You don't even need a weeklong boot camp to pass them. All you have to do is memorize the IRQ's and cable length.
Wow... a monkey passing an MS test. This I really got to see. Seriously, I personally believe all IT Certs "per se" have values (since it took a lot of time, money and effort to make/design them) and if we use them to evaluate the skills and knowledge we have attained. And yes, I do have an MCSA (I like to play around with our school's network)... but I'm really curious about the monkey, must be nice to have one tinkering with the administration tasks of adding accounts and updating group policies, will save me a lot of repetitive tasks.... (hope we keep our sense of humour).
Re: Microsoft Crap Server is credit worthy? Dude, Did Microsoft turn you down for a job or something? You've got a little frustration going on. I am also a MCSE and proud of it and my formal education. The combination of both have been very successful over the years, a little better than a " Monkey " .
somewhat SQL I know you dont like MS products (from reading your other post) but having an MSCE and a BS in IT or related can do alot for you career. MS certification are nowhere near what they used to be 5-6 years ago. Like SQL said if you can follow screens, and configure things within a GUI then you pretty much can get it down. That doesnt mean they are completely worthless though...supplemented with a degree and it can do something for your resume. However I squeam when I read the papers and see adds for MSCE training followed by outrageous numbers on the money you'll earn. NOT! My advice to you wanting to get into IT. Learn Linux - programming, system and network administration. Get your degree too. Or hire a monkey to configure your Windows Network. LOL!!! j/k
Together is Better These Days UNSEEN, I Agree with you, both a degree and certs are a better combo. I got my MCSE when they were hot and it really complimented my experience at that time. After I got my job I went back and finished my Bachelors and now I'm on my Masters. When I finish that I'll do the CISSP certification for security because it's hot currently. Just my current path it may change as I get closer to finishing my MS. Just an opinion R/
RE: How is your experience at AIU going Vonnell? I have a friend completing his Masters there in IT. Personally I'm scared to touch IT right now with all of the outsourcing going on and students are dropping by a rate of 30 percent as IT majors according to the latest stats.
Re: RE: "UNSEEN" My experience at AIU was very good. I think it put me on a regimented path to better success. I'm in the federal government and it's not to bad for advancement if you're willing to move around. In the next 3-5 years there should be a large exodus of workers leaving due to retirement. I'm poised to move in an upward spiral as soon as that happens. I'm not ready to try corporate America yet but I know I will one day due to better salaries. I chose CTU because it basically mimics AIU's style of learning. I'm actually doing work that I can use in my day-to-day job. I’m currently working on writing a business network security plan, very exciting stuff. r/
Oh, yes... like.... I'd learn so much more by sitting in on an IT class at the local community college. NOT. I know plenty of people with degrees that cannot troubleshoot themselves out of a paper bag too.... The paper problem happens even in school....where the majority of students are cheating, etc.
I received lots of credit for my Microsoft Exams. I was just looking over my college transcript and I received 31 credits from microsoft and 4 for comptia certs. I don't know how you could say that CompTia certs are more valuable than and MCSE, but that is probably inexperience speaking. I didn't get my certs for college credit, I got my certs, and then found out later I could get credit for them, which was an added plus. Alot of credit is still from NT certifications. I have only received credit for the 70-270 and 70-291 exams on the 2003 track.
