I am curious to which route I should take as right now I could probably go either just as easy upon starting to take tests... My question is ... which would be better for the job market, and what could you expect to do after getting those degrees? i.e. after getting a degree in CIS what would u get your Major in if you wanted to go to graduate school, could you take the excelsior bscis and get into an MBA program, or would you need the MIS to do that... I checked up on the bls.gov site and it seems that the MIS degree would be better accompanied with an MBA than the CIS with major ... yet a few on this site said that the CIS degree from them would be more valueable... or another aspect have cis, or mis with certs??? ahhh so confusing kind of confused as to which would be my better route and awaiting any informative replies.
You are correct that the MIS degree has more in common with an MBA than a CIS degree as the MIS degree is a business degree. People can and do get MBAs with a CIS background though. IMHO it simply depends on what your strengths/interests are. If you are better suited to mathematics and programming, CIS is great. If you are more interested or carry more aptitude in business level decision making and personnel/project management, then I would recommend MIS. I am pursuing a MIS degree. I personally started on a technical track when I first started school, then shortly there after realized I liked business itself more than my technical trade (engineering). HTH, Boomer
masterj, your post title should have been "which router, Cisco or Nortel" BTW, I have looked at both and MIS is business degree and more suited if you plan to do MBA.
man this board sometimes screws up your messages. Boomer, can you transfer between technical and management track in MIS ? I mean if you start with technical can you later switch to management ? is there any cost to do that at Excelsior ?
I am no expert in this area, but I would not believe there would be a fee from excelsior if you are still working on lower division classes because both maqjors are BS (which identifies the lower level requirements). Again, I am no exper, but I would refer to your Excelsior catalog to compare the lower level requirements just incase there are some differences( there shouldnt be any difference). You can find it online if you dont have a printed one. Boomer
ahh, that is some hope, i wasn't sure you could even get into a graduate business program having a cis over mis, maybe i am naive but it seems that if you had a bs and cis then and mba that you would, if nothing more have a BROADER range of skills than an mis with mba as the cis is quite a bit more technical minded, then showing the best business side with the mba as well...seems fitting, just don't know all how it works being accepted into a graduate level business school after doing the cis route.
masterj, you can do CIS and take Accounting and other business courses in there as electives. That way CIS would also be good for MBA.
back to your original question.... This is no suggestion as which way to go with your studies, but as far as sheer number of positions.... There are more CIS jobs out there than there are MIS type jobs... The average pay for MIS jobs is about the same as CIS type jobs although the MIS senior level jobs typically pay more ( because of the scarcity of people with the education and experience to fill them.) I just applied to a position with a major online presence for a site management position. This is a 24/7 mission critical site. The pay would be somewhere just over $100k. Key experience required was having 4+ years managing staff running a 24/7 site. This is about the highest management position I can muster without my MIS degree. HTH, Boomer
Just a brief note, the standard for IS/CIS degrees includes 15 hours which can be business. IS/CIS is designed to be something which can include business like MIS, but doesn't have to. At Excelsior, you can take 15 business credits in whatever you like (including 9 from ICCP core) as well as DSST MIS and ICCP BIS (I think) which count as CIS core. You could also take statistics, and Calculus for Business majors. While not the same as an MIS degree, that could be pretty close to an MIS degree when it comes to grad school....especially considering all the CIS courses included as well.... Daniel
ahh very cool, luckily i was already an MIS major, my school didnt offer a CIS degree when i started, just MIS, or computer science... kina crappy but thats the breaks. i already have calc for bus + statistics on my transcript.
First timer Hi, I'm going to take my first Master degree and I'm not sure what I'm facing. What can you say guy's on the Curriculum below. It's a Master in Information System. Do you think Studying these will help shape my future in IT career? IS 201 Computer Ethics (3 units) Ethical issues confronting computer professionals IS 214 Principles of Programming Languages (3 units) Formal language theory, principles and techniques of compiler construction, programming language design concepts, parallelism and formal semantics IS 215 Advanced Computer Systems (3 units) Recent developments in computer architecture and computer systems IS 226 Web Information Systems (3 units) WWW programming, electronic commerce and online databases (Prerequisite: CMSC E or CMSC F or consent of instructor) IS 238 Client/Server Computing (3 units) Client/server computing techniques, system design, software, and applications IS 272 Strategic Information Systems (3 units) Information engineering concepts and tools for strategic systems planning and development IS 295a Information System Project I (2 units) Design of an information system IS 295b Information System Project II (2 units) Implementation of an information sytem And guys, please share your experience on this subject. I just want to understand more and how hard it is. Thank much.
Looks like you're considering doing the University of the Philippines Open University degree: http://www.upou.edu.ph/academic/programs/mis.html You will probably learn a lot from this degree. I don't know how well it would be regarded by employers; probably about as well as most of the MIS degrees. I'd suggest that you look at online job sites at the kind of jobs you want to get, and see what kind of academic requirements they have. If a lot of them say you need a MIS, then go ahead. But IMHO employers are generally looking for certifications and experience rather than a master's in MIS.
Thanks emmzee. Yes your right. I'm planning to take DL course from the Philippines. I'm searching now for Job opening in the market to get more idea. Basically, i'm targeting to be expert in network security. I don't have the experience yet and i will start looking for IT Security job related in 2011 after finishing my contract here in Iraq. "i hope it's easy, like saying/typing what my plan is in the real world". While here, I'm planning to finish the MIS study for 1yr. The doubt is, is it possible? "immaturity & uncertainty will lead to catastrphe - by unkwon"
CIS and MBA I would tend to believe that if you are sure about getting an MBA, then the CIS MBA route would be of more benefit. I have seen a great number of job openings where they want someone with CIS degree and they usually will take someone with a CIS or engineering degree. On the other hand i see companies looking for MIS, IT, or business degrees. Rarely do I see them look for a CIS or IT degree for the same position, or a CIS and business degree for the same position. So taking the CIS-MBA route would allow you the opportunity to apply for both business and technical positions. Half of the CIS degrees have the same requirements as an MIS degree with the addition of physics and calculus. Other schools require a really difficult set of courses because they consider CIS more of an engineering degree.
