BA in 4 Weeks gets own website - bain4weeks.com

Discussion in 'CLEP, DANTES, and Other Exams for Credit' started by Lawrie Miller, Jul 7, 2003.

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  1. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    When I created the BA in 4 Weeks website I calculated a minimum of a thousand visits to its pages per year would justify the time and effort involved. I hoped for maybe 5,000 and toyed with fancies of up to 10,000, but dismissed this as irrational exuberance. The number is now over 161,000 and the site has outgrown its free site.

    The new BA in 4 Weeks URL is http://bain4weeks.com.

    My thanks to those of you who have referred others to the site and to those website admins/owners who have listed BA in 4 Weeks in their pages (particularly germane here, of course, Chip White and degreeinfo, Tom Nixon - TomNixon.com, Russ Blahetka blahetka.com).

    Whole lot of email to which I have yet to offer reply. Will get to it.

    Master's degree review project delayed, sorry, but I do have a number of preliminary reviews written with benefit of firsthand experience of the institutions detailed. That is, courses taken, dealings with and assessment of academic and administrative staff, impressions of course curricula, materials, production and presentation.

    I come away with the conviction that the most important institutional attributes affecting DL graduate student success or failure are personnel (staff) orientation (institutionally oriented or customer oriented), and organization (defined as a well understood "purpose and intent" (reason for being). and sound, credible set of procedures by which such intents and purposes may be realized. Another criterion - flexibility. Instituton's ability to respond to the peculiar needs of individuals who buy their product.


    That might sound a bit vague but the actual reviews should leave you in no doubt. Are their some real gems fitting the criteria delineated (accredited, credible, relatively quick and inexpensive - see BA in 4 Weeks > Masters degrees > Criteria for Inclusion)? Yes, no doubt about it.

    Some institutions and their officers will do all they can to accommodate your specific needs, treating you as a valued customer and clearly demonstrating that they view their primary responsibililty is to act, within the rules, in your best interests.

    At other (state run) instititutions representatives are capable of displaying levels of mendacity, larceny, and Orwellian double speak worthy of a Whitehouse press secretary (of either party).


    The purpose of the reviews is to relate events and impressions, and to make recommendations based on evidence, that will assist readers in making more informed choices about their graduate education.

    Lawrie Miller
    BA in 4 Weeks - Accelerated Master's Degrees by Distance Learning
    http://bain4weeks.com
     
  2. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    You have a great website. I found lots of info. that I did not know anything about. I know you like the big 3, so I am wondering.

    I have an AS in Electronics Engineering with all college transfer general ed. courses. I also have some other courses outside of this program. I have about 16 years experience in my field. Which of the big 3 would you recommend? I have several licenses and many certificates also. If you do not want to repond specificately in this thread then PM me.

    Thanks,

    Scott
     
  3. RKanarek

    RKanarek Member

    Dear Mr. Miller:
    I was going to congratulate you on obtaining your very own web site and domain name. Since your accomplishment, however, only means that you are selflessly spending yet more of your money for the public good (despite the fact that there is very little good in the public), I think I'll thank you instead. <g>


    Dear Scott:
    You mentioned you had an "AS in Electronics Engineering." Surely there is no such a thing? Did you mean that you had an AS in EET, or ET? Enquiring minds want to know!


    Cordially,
    Richard Kanarek
     
  4. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    New Site

    Great news on your new website. I hope some of the high school crew I directed your way are taking advantage of the information. Thanks for the continued great information. Hille
     
  5. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    In general, AAS = technology level and AS = engineering level.
     
  6. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    Richard:

    Just trying to keep it short ASEET is correct.

    Regards,

    Scott
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...wonder if that has anything to do with State laws.

    This, SUNY Dutchess, is a community college near me. They distinguish between AAS and AS degrees. Note the ELT (AAS) and ENR (AS) degrees. The ENR degree is pre-engineering and requires 19 math credits (beginning with Analytic Geometry and Calculus I) and 12 credits in Engineering Physics.
     
  8. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    More to do with ABET accreditation, also with professional engineering licensing is my understanding.
     
  9. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    That would make sense as the SUNY-Dutchess program is accepted by some ABET engineering schools.
     
  10. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Ahem! www.tomnixon.net (and thanks for the plug!).;)

    Congratulations on the new domain and the fantastic website. A tremendous service to the distance learning community!



    Tom Nixon
     
  11. RKanarek

    RKanarek Member

    In my lexicon, which may not be synchronized with the lexicon of the world at large <g>, AS = (Associate of) Applied Science, and AAS = Associate of Applied Science.

    In any case, I don't think that a 2yr degree includes course work that would be considered to be on a par with B.S. "engineering level" course work by those that pontificate on such matters.


    Cordially,
    Richard Kanarek
     
  12. RKanarek

    RKanarek Member

    Thanks for the information & good luck pursuing your degree!

    Cordially,
    Richard Kanarek

    P.S. Our educational goals differ only in as far as I'm rather determined to pursue an EE'ish educational path, even if it is an expurgated & un-ABET accredited one, rather than doing the smart thing and settling for an EET degree. <g> I'd love to learn from your experiences dealing with college(s); hopefully you'll post some of the wisdom you acquire!
     
  13. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    No argument here!
     
  14. Lawrie,

    Have you thought about setting up a mechanism (paypal or something like (www.selfpromotion.com) for contributions?

    I've never needed your site buty I get a kick out of it - and I believe your effort is worth contributing to.

    In fact, the major reason I used to visit this site was the link to yours. I was not a happy camper when the link was removed. :(
     
  15. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Well, AS = Associates in Science and AAS = Associates in Applied Science.



    I must demur, Sir.

    From the SUNY-Dutchess catalog:

    "This curriculum is recommended for students planning to transfer upon graduation from Dutchess to a four-year college granting the Bachelor of Engineering Degree. Students satisfactorily completing the program are normally accepted as full status third year students. Dutchess has specific agreements with Clarkson University, SUNY New Paltz, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Union College and Western New England College providing for the transfer of qualified students to those institutions. Other engineering schools that DCC graduates have successfully transferred to with full junior status are SUNY Campuses at Binghamton, Buffalo and Stony Brook, Colorado State University, Cornell University, University of Hartford, University of Illinois, Rochester Institute of Technology and Virginia Polytechnic Institute. Students who wish to complete this program in two years should have successfully completed high school Chemistry, Physics and four units of high school academic Mathematics."


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    ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURE AND COMPUTER TECHNOLOGIES
    ENGINEERING SCIENCE
    (HEGIS 5609)
    This program is for students planning to transfer upon graduation from Dutchess Community College to a four-year college granting a
    Bachelor of Science in an engineering discipline. Dutchess graduates readily transfer to established and respected educational institutions
    as third-year engineering students. Dutchess Community College’s engineering science program is designed so that our students develop the
    skill set needed to succeed in competitive four-year engineering programs in a variety of engineering disciplines. Our engineering science
    program provides the appropriate mix of math, science, engineering, and liberal arts as benchmarked by ABET (Accreditation Board of
    Engineering and Technology) and recommended by TYESA (Two-Year Engineering Science Association). The Dutchess Community College
    Engineering Science program incorporates the following competencies: problem solving, design, teamwork, communication skills, quality
    and continuous improvement, and computer literacy.
    Six advisement tracks are available to students to help them transfer to a specific engineering major at a four-year university or college.
    o Biomedical Engineering o Computer Engineering
    o Chemical Engineering o Electrical Engineering
    o Civil and Environmental Engineering o Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering
    It is recommended that students entering this program have completed high school Chemistry, Physics, and four units of high school
    Mathematics. Students without current college-preparatory courses in these areas may need more than two years to complete the
    engineering science program.
    The Associates in Science (A.S.) degree is awarded upon completion of the requirements of this program.
    Courses should be selected with an advisor.
    Course No. Descriptive Title Cr.Hrs.
    FIRST SEMESTER
    ENG 101 Composition I 3
    CHE 121 General Chemistry I 4
    MAT 221 Analytic Geometry and Calculus I 4
    ENR 101 Introduction to Engineering 2
    ENR 100 Engineering Technology Introductory
    Seminar 1
    ENT 131 Technical Drawing 1
    See footnote (a) TOTAL 15
    SECOND SEMESTER
    ENG 102 Composition II 3
    WFE 101 Lifetime Wellness and Fitness 3
    PHY 151 Engineering Physics I 4
    MAT 222 Analytic Geometry and Calculus II 4
    ENR 102 Computer Programming for Engineers (b) 3
    See footnote (b) TOTAL 17
    THIRD SEMESTER
    PHY 152 Engineering Physics II 4
    MAT 223 Analytic Geometry and Calculus III 4
    ENR 208 Engineering Statics 3
    Technical elective (c) 3-4
    BHS 103 Social Problems in Today’s World 3
    TOTAL 17-18
    FOURTH SEMESTER
    PHY 251 Engineering Physics III 4
    MAT 224 Differential Equations 4
    HIS 104, HIS 108, or HIS 121 3
    Advanced Technical Electives (d) 6-8
    TOTAL 17-19
    TOTAL 66 CREDIT HOURS
    a. In addition to the listed first semester course load, Electrical and
    Computer Engineering students should also take ELT 115.
    Biomedical & Chemical Engineering students should also take
    WFE 101.
    b. In addition to the second semester course load, Biomedical and
    Chemical Engineering students should take CHE 122.
    c. The courses that apply as introductory technical electives are
    ENR 201, ENR 215, BIO 101 and CHE 231.
    Biomedical Engineering take BIO 101
    Electrical Engineering take ENR 201
    Chemical Engineering take CHE 231
    Environmental Engineering by advisement
    Civil Engineering take ENR 215
    Mechanical Engineering take ENR 201
    d. The courses that apply as advanced technical electives are
    ENR 204, ENR 207, ENR 209, ELT 215, MAT 214, BIO 102,
    CHE 232, and CAD 102.
    Biomedical Engineering take BIO 102 and ENR 207
    Electrical Engineering ENR 209 and ELT 215
    Chemical Engineering take CHE 232 and ENR 207
    Environmental Engineering ENR 209 and by advisement
    Civil Engineering take ENR 209 and CAD 102
    Mechanical Engineering take ENR 209 and ENR 207 or CAD
    102
    Computer Engineering take ELT 215 and MAT 214

    Sorry about the formatting but .pdf conversion is a hummer.
     
  16. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    Not much wisdom here. I could probably help you with most anything in the electrical field, but I came here for information just as you did. Degree's, accreditation, and ABET are things I am learning about also. I really have never found an RA BSEE degree by distance, or non traditional methods. I hope one pops up one day.

    Good Luck!

    Scott
     
  17. RKanarek

    RKanarek Member

    Well, of course I was refering to pratices in America. How things are done in New York, or other parts of North Korea, is a differnt matter. <g>

    Cordially,
    Richard Kanarek
    New Yorker by birth, not by morals
     
  18. gsmckee

    gsmckee New Member

    Try www.und.edu for a Distance ABET RA B.S. Electrical Engineering (or Civil or Chemical). It is kinda pricy, but very legit.
    (And maybe a short trip for a real lab).
    The BS Engineering Technology - Electromechanical at Rochester Institute of Technology is ABET and distance. More fairly priced, but by the quarter hour... (And maybe a short trip for a real lab).
    Old Dominion University (through the Navy College Program) has a BS Engineering Technology which is not ABET, but very well done for the distance learner... Intended for a sailor while deployed...
    Give it a good search, and move on.

     
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