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    Sailor to offiecer Quickest Path

    Hello guys, I really need your input on this one. Past October I posted a thread on getting a Bachelors as fast as I could in international relationship via excelsior, so that I can advance from a US NAVY Sailor to Officer but as pointed there , the present credit I have are not good for a Bachelors in Social science.
    So this time I am again requesting you guys to guide me a hard, but quick and fastest path to obtaining a Bachelors in Science or Bachelors in general . I really need this help because I really want to develop my self as a person and as a US military personal.
    please help a Country man ,I know this forum is capable to guide a sailor to a officers path . So please help me .


    here are my credits so far

    ART 103 Art Appreciation B 3.00
    BIOLOGY 121 Biology I T 5.00
    BIOLOGY 226 Human Struc and Func I C 4.00
    BIOLOGY 227 Human Struc and Func II A 4.00
    CHEM 121 Basic Chemistry I A 4.00
    CHEM 201 General Chemistry I A 5.00
    CHEM 212 Survey Of Organic & Biochem A 4.00
    ENGLISH 101 Composition A 3.00
    ENGLISH 102 Composition B 3.00
    HISTORY 232 Modern Euro Hist 1500-1830 T 3.00
    LIT 110 Introduction To Literature T 3.00
    MATH 204-1 Calculus For Bus Soc Sci T 5.00
    MCROBIO 233 General Microbiology C 4.00
    MUSIC 121 Introduction To Music A 3.00
    NURSING 101 Fundamentals Of Nursing C 7.00
    PSYCH 201 General Psychology A 3.00
    SOC 205 Social Problems A 3.00
    SPEECH 101-1 Fund Of Speech Communicationn B 3.00
    VOC TR 1901 Mock Hospital Skills Lab S 1.00

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    I know you were looking at Excelsior in another thread, but I only have test out plans for Thomas Edison State University. You pretty much just have general education credits, so there aren't many, if any, credits you'll waste by choosing one degree over another.

    You can test out of the Strategic Management capstone for TESU's BSBA degrees. They come with various concentrations such as computer information systems , general management, human resources , accounting , and marketing . Those are the only bachelor's degrees at any of the Big 3 (TESU, COSC , and Excelsior) that don't require an actual capstone course that will take several weeks to a few months to finish.

    If you don't feel comfortable with tests/courses in business (I know some people don't like accounting , economics , and finance), then the easiest degrees to test out of at TESU are social science and liberal studies. However, you will have to take a 12-week capstone course.
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    There's a lot more to transitioning from the enlisted force to a commission. Writing skills, for one. In fact, possessing a bachelor's degree is just one factor. There's also one's ability to write. Also, you have less than half a degree's worth of credit amassed so far, so you'll need to structure an entire degree, which will no doubt require some upper division courses. Like writing.

    Something like that.

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    Yes sanaton I was leaning towards excelsior college in the earlier post , it's probably because they advertise very effectively , but I can go to any school to get a bs as quick as possible , tesu is actually one of biggest and not able university for on the go people like me , I just want a bs degree plan that is very quick , I am willing to test out of any exam I can. Is there a way you can maybe look at my credit and advise me a degree plan. I just don't want a business degree , because I don't like business studies , I have never done that.

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    Rich Douglas , you are right , officer post required a lot of literature and language content , but I have more than enough experience writing that , I have written 2 completed cited 20 page paper , One about effect of Iranian revolution on women right and the other Soviet Union collapse . I am waiting to publish them but I haven't gotten a great forum to publish them at . That said , you are right , I still need to develop myself to be a officer and that what I will do. But for now I need a quick degree plan

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    Alex,

    There are essentially 3 schools that will essentially let you "test out" of a degree. Excelsior (EC), seems to be the least used lately mostly because they are the costliest of the group. The other two are Thomas Edison State University (TESU) and Charter Oak State College (COSC ).

    The speed at which one can go is largely dictated by cost and your own ability to pass exams and whatever classes you have to have.

    TESU is the most popular right now because you can use readilly available CLEP and DSST exams for most of the requirements, then take 8 TECEP exams (TESU's own in house exams) which will effectively lower the cost. The TECEP's allow you to qualify for a lower cost plan, but will lock you into having to pass all 8 TECEP's.

    COSC will allow you to test out of the bulk of work just like TESC and EC, but require a lower level cornerstone and an upper level Capstone course be taken with them. Unlike TESU Charter Oak will take FEMA credits directly from FEMA without cost, this can save significant time and money, but you have to weigh all the options and find the best one for you.

    All options will require general education credits, things like history , psychology , math, science, etc... All will also require 18-30 credits in some sort of major and at the upper level (300-400 level).

    Rich was actually polite in pointing out your apparent lack of writing skills. If your two post's in this thread are typical of your ability, you should probably find a program somewhere that can teach you the fundamentals.
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    At a glance I think you have most of the general eds required by COSC except Ethics. looks like you have 70 some odd credits, It's likely that a a couple of exams like Ethics and perhaps the DSST Oral Communications plus about 15 FEMA would leave you with only the two COSC required courses and 9 UL classes (27 credits) at the Upper Level. You might consider a concentration in "Health Care", the 9 course could include a few exams and then classes taken at just about any regionally accredited college (UL only) that could be brought back into the COSC program.

    I didn't look too closely, but would help you work out a plan if the details I just provided sound good to you. It could all be done in about a year, maybe a little quicker...depending on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Douglas View Post
    There's a lot more to transitioning from the enlisted force to a commission. Writing skills, for one. In fact, possessing a bachelor's degree is just one factor. There's also one's ability to write. Also, you have less than half a degree's worth of credit amassed so far, so you'll need to structure an entire degree, which will no doubt require some upper division courses. Like writing.

    Something like that.
    Gee, Rich, why don't you tell us what you really think of the original poster's writing skills?

    Personally, I think he already has more than enough knowledge to be a lewtenant. Or, since he's a sailor, an ensen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel100 View Post

    Rich was actually polite in pointing out your apparent lack of writing skills. If your two post's in this thread are typical of your ability, you should probably find a program somewhere that can teach you the fundamentals.
    I don't think it was stated in a polite manner, but it needed to be said.

    To the OP, you are going to have a tough time with testing out of a degree in the U.S. and advancing in your career if you are not proficient in English and don't have satisfactory writing skills. I recommend retaking English I and maybe taking a business communications or similar course. If English is not your first language, then you may need to take an ESL course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Levicoff View Post
    Gee, Rich, why don't you tell us what you really think of the original poster's writing skills?

    Personally, I think he already has more than enough knowledge to be a lewtenant. Or, since he's a sailor, an ensen.
    As some posters may know, I enlisted in the military at age 18 and took my bachelor's degrees at what is now Excelsior. I was a 22-year-old staff sergeant when I was accepted into officer training school. (A program that was heavily dependent on communication skills, by the way.) I'm pointing out the fact that it takes a lot more than just a degree to become an officer.

    On an irrelevant-but-fun note, this month marks 20 years since I retired from the military. (I was 36 when I retired.) Oh, my.

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    I think the point has been made. For all we know, the OP's writing seems off because (he?) is trying to fire off these posts on a smart phone.

    The hard qualification that the OP has come here to discuss (and the one we all happen to specialize in) is a bachelor's degree and how to test through it. Though the OP should also be aware that grades can, in fact, matter in an OCS package. So if you're skating through those courses with a "C" and thinking it doesn't matter, well, it can.

    It's true, there are multiple things that go into making a successful officer. There are many soft skills (such as communication) that are simply beyond the diagnosis prowess of people on a message board. But, just as surely as we are not "CertInfo.com" we are also not "OCSSuccessInfo.com" or "InterpersonalSkillsforSuccessInfo.com."

    And, for the record, I knew more than a handful of officers who were dumber than bricks (including a Personnel Officer who thought "Africa" was a country, the people of Puerto Rico were "Mexicans" and that "irregardless" was most certainly a real word). I also had an LDO (that's a Limited Duty Officer, a former enlisted person who becomes an officer but is restricted to working in a particular specialty they developed expertise in through their enlisted service) who failed the GED exam four times before eventually giving up. Though, LDOs don't go to OCS, so perhaps he would have never made it through had he been forced to go that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    I think the point has been made. For all we know, the OP's writing seems off because (he?) is trying to fire off these posts on a smart phone.

    and that "irregardless" was most certainly a real word
    True, but I gave him my opinion irregardless. ;)
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    I apologize if my post offended any of you fine gentlemen in any way, I was typing on my iPad and so made some grammar mistakes. that said @rebel , I left nursing school for Navy so I am not interested in Nursing at all. Do you think there are any other health care plans that you can give me a road map of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexAnderson View Post
    I apologize if my post offended any of you fine gentlemen in any way, I was typing on my iPad and so made some grammar mistakes. that said @rebel , I left nursing school for Navy so I am not interested in Nursing at all. Do you think there are any other health care plans that you can give me a road map of?
    You didn't offend anyone. No need to play the bullied.

    Still typing on that iPad, I see.

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