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    MBA program self paced?

    Hello ladies and gentleman,

    I am looking for a self paced MBA Program. I was enrolled in Amberton however I missed the deadline for summer and have to wait next registration to pick classes. Which to me, is inconvenient.

    I am looking for an MBA under $15k
    Self Paced Program. Assignments and papers only.
    No Tests/or quizzes (that's why I liked Amberton University, it was just writing papers and submitting assignments.)
    For Profit or Non Profit does not matter.
    RA preferably however I am keeping an eye on DETC/DEAC schools.

    I also enrolled in Patten University and also did not like the format, the professors were rude to me just by asking simple questions on the material being presented.
    I heard WGU has now implemented proctor examinations which again not a fan of.

    Also any negative comments please keep to yourself, I am looking for suggestions and not debates on why I rather write papers and submit assignments compared to taking examinations.

    Thanks,

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    Distance Learning Found Haiku #537

    Self-paced. I missed the
    deadline. Which to me, is
    inconvenient.
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    I don't know of any self-paced, no quizzes, no exams, online MBA programs that are still accepting registration for the summer term on June 29. Good luck to you finding that golden unicorn, if it exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CogitusInterruptus View Post
    Good luck to you finding that golden unicorn, if it exists.
    I believe you're right, it doesn't exist. Sometimes it's simple - you snooze, you lose.
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    Good luck with your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student_Rex View Post

    I also enrolled in Patten University and also did not like the format, the professors were rude to me just by asking simple questions on the material being presented.
    I heard WGU has now implemented proctor examinations which again not a fan of.
    I'm sorry to hear about the Patten experience. I'd love to hear more detail, but I totally understand if you're not comfortable doing that.

    Competency-based programs of the RA designation are where you mostly find true self-pacing. There are some RA MBA programs like this, Argosy U comes to mind. Not sure about the prices though.

    As for DEAC schools, your best bet is to go to the deac.org website and use the form on the front page (top left corner) then search the schools that come up. That said, many DEAC schools have converted to the weekly teaching system and are no longer fully self-paced (i.e., not set deadlines). You'll also find that many have become as expensive or more so in comparison to RA schools.

    I'm a big fan of the DEAC, but when it comes to graduate degrees, my fandom decreases. So considering my previous point about DEAC schools turning away from the self-pacing model and having comparable and higher prices than RA schools--then throw in the lesser utility of an NA degree overall--I wouldn't consider an NA degree at the Master's level unless it was a program I simply couldn't get anywhere else, or if money was a major concern and the NA degree was considerably less expensive.

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    You can ask Capella if they have proctored exams for the Flexpath program. You're not the first person to state a dislike for Patten's programs, but you might have to get over your distaste for proctored exams.
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    I know it's not what you are looking for, but the Heriot-Watt EBS MBA program is probably the closest thing in terms of the flexibility you are looking for.

    One could argue the exams are equivalent to just "writing papers and submitting assignments" since they are mainly case studies and essay questions. The main difference is that you're just doing at an exam center, instead of at home.

    However, they have made accommodations in the past for people with disabilities, or unusual circumstances (like serving on a nuclear submarine.)
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    Sorry - off topic

    Quote Originally Posted by edowave View Post
    I know it's not what you are looking for, but the Heriot-Watt EBS MBA program is probably the closest thing in terms of the flexibility you are looking for.

    One could argue the exams are equivalent to just "writing papers and submitting assignments" since they are mainly case studies and essay questions. The main difference is that you're just doing at an exam center, instead of at home.

    However, they have made accommodations in the past for people with disabilities, or unusual circumstances (like serving on a nuclear submarine.)
    Hey edowave,

    I noticed this in you sig line.

    Penn Foster - Home Remodeling and Repair

    Did you get a certificate? I am just curious. I have been studying this discipline from the school of hard knocks. I am lucky though, I guess you could say I am under the tutelage of my very nice neighbor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Student_Rex View Post
    Hello ladies and gentleman,

    I am looking for a self paced MBA Program. I was enrolled in Amberton however I missed the deadline for summer and have to wait next registration to pick classes. Which to me, is inconvenient.

    I am looking for an MBA under $15k
    Self Paced Program. Assignments and papers only.
    No Tests/or quizzes (that's why I liked Amberton University, it was just writing papers and submitting assignments.)
    For Profit or Non Profit does not matter.
    RA preferably however I am keeping an eye on DETC/DEAC schools.

    I also enrolled in Patten University and also did not like the format, the professors were rude to me just by asking simple questions on the material being presented.
    I heard WGU has now implemented proctor examinations which again not a fan of.

    Also any negative comments please keep to yourself, I am looking for suggestions and not debates on why I rather write papers and submit assignments compared to taking examinations.

    Thanks,
    This is my first post. I've been reading for a couple years now and thought I needed to chime in on this one. I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll be able to find the program you're looking for. One of the issues is that online education needs to validate that you are at least doing the work for some of the classes. This is hard to do unless you at least proctor a few tests. There are some master programs that only require papers, but I'm not sure how you would prove your knowledge in finance and accounting with a paper. Aspen I know uses paper only, but they are not self-paced. Also be careful what you ask for as papers only can and often means a lot more work than simply studying for a multiple choice test.

    In regards to Patten, I attended their sister school which uses the exact same platform for the program. It's been about 4 years now but from what I see in the class and program demo's not much has changed. I'm not sure what you mean by
    the professors were rude to me just by asking simple questions on the material being presented.
    As far as I remember the only engagement with professors is if you have questions, but it's faster to Google, especially if you are trying to move at a fast pace. Your grade is based entirely on the final exam and/or final paper. I moved at the pace of about a class every two week except for the finance and accounting , which took about 1 month each. Those two exams where very focus on memorized calculations which required the additional study time. I also find it very hard to believe the professors were rude to you, but that is a very subjective word and like all schools you have to be ready to take criticism.

    If you truly want an MBA , you have to be willing to deal with the BS that goes along with it. If that means you have to take a proctored exam every now and then, just suck it up and take the exam. If papers only is a hard and fast rule, consider a masters in something else if you can't find an appropriate MBA program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abner View Post
    Hey edowave,

    I noticed this in you sig line.

    Penn Foster - Home Remodeling and Repair

    Did you get a certificate? I am just curious. I have been studying this discipline from the school of hard knocks. I am lucky though, I guess you could say I am under the tutelage of my very nice neighbor!
    Not having a dad or anyone growing up to teach me any handy skills, I signed up for the program when I bought a fixer-upper.

    I never got the certificate though. I ran out of time to complete the exams, and they wanted another $75 in order for me to extend the course. I didn't bother. I got what I wanted out of the program and didn't see the need to another piece of paper. So far I renovated a kitchen and bathroom, restored all my hardwood floors, built a shed, replaced an oil fired hot water heater to an instant-on electric one (I sorta cheated though, I used shark-bites for the plumbing , not solder) and of course many hours of painting.

    After the MBA , the Penn Foster certificate probably had the best ROI for me, at least in the short-term. I saved a lot of money doing a lot myself. I was quoted $10,000 for a bathroom remodel. I did it with $800 in materials.

    My next educational endeavor - build my own log cabin.

    There is an interesting weekend course that was founded by one of Bruce Lee's students on how to build your own log cabin from scratch. The guy who founded the course passed away, but the course is still being taught. Log Home Builders Association - Build your own homes or cabins from scratch .
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    Quote Originally Posted by edowave View Post
    Not having a dad or anyone growing up to teach me any handy skills, I signed up for the program when I bought a fixer-upper.

    I never got the certificate though. I ran out of time to complete the exams, and they wanted another $75 in order for me to extend the course. I didn't bother. I got what I wanted out of the program and didn't see the need to another piece of paper. So far I renovated a kitchen and bathroom, restored all my hardwood floors, built a shed, replaced an oil fired hot water heater to an instant-on electric one (I sorta cheated though, I used shark-bites for the plumbing , not solder) and of course many hours of painting.

    After the MBA , the Penn Foster certificate probably had the best ROI for me, at least in the short-term. I saved a lot of money doing a lot myself. I was quoted $10,000 for a bathroom remodel. I did it with $800 in materials.

    My next educational endeavor - build my own log cabin.

    There is an interesting weekend course that was founded by one of Bruce Lee's students on how to build your own log cabin from scratch. The guy who founded the course passed away, but the course is still being taught. Log Home Builders Association - Build your own homes or cabins from scratch .
    Wow! That's incredible that you learned all of that from Penn Foster ! Good for you. !!!!!!!!!!! My grandpa used to build his own houses, then would build some rentals to boot. Not bad for a boy that came here from Spain at 15 with no family, no friends, and no money to help him. You guys are naturals. There is no way I could build my own home. I am not that good.
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    I did a lot of work on my first house with skills I acquired from Home Depot demos and, later, Youtube videos.

    I also supplemented my learning with some PF Cabinet books that a buddy had collecting dust. They were pretty solid texts and one of the reasons why I generally hold PF in high regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edowave View Post
    (I sorta cheated though, I used shark-bites for the plumbing, not solder) .
    Absolutely not cheating. It's brilliant. I also used Sharkbites installing a Water Softener. Well technically I used the Lowe's version -- their stiffener is removable so you can avoid that horribly awkward situation when the Home Depot version's stiffener does not align and voila - leakville.
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    I did not know there was a Lowe's version. I'll have to check them out. Home Depot is just closer to me, so I always went there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edowave View Post
    I did not know there was a Lowe's version. I'll have to check them out. Home Depot is just closer to me, so I always went there.
    I went through almost every option installing my water softener. The removable stiffener is so helpful. Makes getting a good connection so much easier. I suspect you know the problem I mentioned with the HD SharkBites.

    The Lowe's version is the "Blue Hawk" brand.

    I predominately ended up using the long corrugated stainless steel connectors to interconnect a whole house water filter and the water softener. I used just a tiny, tiny bit of PEX. My original plan was to go all CPVC with glue and the whole 9 yards. PEX, Quick Connects, and the tubes saved my sanity!
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