Newbie planning on Charter Oak for Business and political science

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  1. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    I Anna mama for who originally earn 33 credits at her local community college and then went on to earn my associates and paralegals studies from a nationally accredited school that is in partnership with charter Oak . My current plan is to attend charter Oak and earn either my bachelors in business or my bachelors in political science. I live in Ohio who has a fellowship program to learn the in and outs of politics that I am very interested in. I don't just want to go randomly take clep test because I'm not sure which ones will apply, so does anyone know what my best plan of action would be at this point. I have already applied at Excelsior College only to be told that they will not give me a plan on what I should be doing so I'm not thrilled with Excelsior and don't plan on attending there. Also they will not accept my credits from national paralegal college. Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated I'm not sure if charter Oak will except all of my credits but if they do that I should have like 64 to transfer in towards my bachelors
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Unless I missed it, COSC doesn't have a political science bachelors program. Beyond that I'd point out that Bachelors programs in business are probably the most common DL program in the country and so, considering that you don't want to test out of your courses I'm not sure why you've chosen COSC
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yes, they offer a concentration in political science.

    She explained that COSC has an agreement with the nationally accredited school where she earned previous credits, so she would be sure not to lose them.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    OK then. If the decision has been made then what's the issue? Submit your transcripts, see what they accept, and go from there.
     
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  5. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    If your NA college has an articulation agreement with COSC then your credits should be accepted in accordance with that agreement. We don't know what that agreement is or if it even applies to you. The only way to find that out is to ask the folks at your NA school or COSC or, preferably, both.

    That aside, while many treat this as a race to 120 credits, that number is largely meaningless if you don't meet the degree requirements. So look beyond "how many credits do I get?" and look toward the degree roadmaps and ensuring that the credits that DO transfer, as well as future courses you might take, meet the requirements for the degree.
     
  6. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Coming up with a plan.

    Ok, I have been corresponding with an admissions representative at Charter oak.
    First: I really need to decide if I want to get my bachelors in Business ( which is what I originally went to school for in 2006)
    Or get my bachelors in political science ( which I've heard is a useless degree and that's scary)

    Your thoughts?

    Second,

    The admissions representative said almost all of my classes at NPC have been assessed by NCSSR? And that means they will accept them giving me 3 credits transferred for each class. Which means I should have close to 21 credits to transfer over. I will graduate with my associates in paralegal studies in July.

    My goal here is to try and get a solid plan or oath with where I'm going and maybe even take a clep or two before I graduate in July.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Here's what I have completed and have credits for so far:

    Central Ohio Technical College
    BMT 2014-Principals of Business-TR- Gen Ed - 3 credits
    MTH 1200- Basic Mathematics- TR - Gen Ed - 3 credits
    PCE 1400- Basic Writing Skills- TR- Gen Ed - 3 Credits
    COM 1532- Composition 1 - TR - Gen Ed - 3 credits
    MTH 1204 - Business Mathematics- TR- Gen Ed- 3 credits
    COM 1533- Composition 2 - TR- Gen Ed- 3 credits
    BMT 2022- Principals of Marketing - TR- Gen Ed - 3 credits
    BMT 284- compensation and benefits - TR - gen Ed - 3 credits

    National Paralegal College
    Plg-105-1505- business law and bankruptcy- 3 credits
    Plg-109-1506 - professional responsibility and Legal ethics -3 credits
    Plg-101-1507- torts and personal injury- 3 credits
    Plg- 106-1508- wills trusts and estates-3 credits
    Plg- 108-1509- legal research writing and civil litigation - 3 credits
    Plg-102-1510- contracts - 3 credits
    Plg-104-1511- real property- 3 Credits
    Plg- 402-1512- advanced civil litigation - 3 credits
     
  8. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    Only 21 out of 60+ for your associates? That's a shame. Did they say why only 21? If you're willing to go with business, that opens up possibilities. You should try TESU. Just apply and send your transcripts, then you can see how/if your credits transfer.
     
  9. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Here's an attachment with what I've earned

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    Here's part one of two of what I've earned so far
     
  10. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Well actually I take that back any class I have taken at NPC should transfer over for full credit minus one class possibly
     
  11. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Part two of what I've earned

    Here's what I earned at COTC image.jpg
     
  12. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    I actually earned 33 credits at COTC but the attachment is only showing what NPC accepted from COTC
     
  13. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    Now I understand. The COTC courses should be no issue since they are RA.
     
  14. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    Yes the issue I'm having with excelsior and possibly TESC is the national accreditation with NPC. I'm a mom of four (two bio) ( two adopted nieces) and super busy so hoping to work on getting a bachelors completely online and using cleps
     
  15. Awonser

    Awonser New Member

    My husband works for Boeing and we may leave Ohio before I get my bachelors and try to earn a paid 13 month fellowship with the LSC fellowship here and it is an excellent opportunity and would open a lot of doors into that career field but A lot can happen and we may move before o can even do that fellowship program so I feel like the business degree is prob more universal but I love the thought of getting my political science degree and going on to try and make a difference somewhere preferably with children rights or children advocacy ( since I adopted my nieces who were abused) I have a desire to do work related to children but also other areas of legislation.
     
  16. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Excelsior accepts NA credits on a case-by-case basis.

    I believe COSC has a concentration in paralegal studies.
     
  17. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    There's really no such thing as a "useless" degree.

    People usually use this to label degrees in Liberal Arts, General Studies or the humanities. But unless your degree is in "embezzlement" or "committing fraud" I can't imagine that an employer is actually going to hold it against you.

    The main reason is that unless you are applying for an internship, a fellowship (which sounds like you might be interested in from your other posts), or a super entry level position you should be getting hired on the basis of a combination of skills, education and experience rather than what your degree says.

    If a person works in HR for years, has their SPHR and a B.S. in PoliSci, is an employer going to refuse to hire them? Probably not. There are disciplines where the "closely related degree" issue is much more prominent. Engineering, accounting, mental health and healthcare are big areas where "closely related" narrows considerably. In all of those areas the issue tends to tie to licensure. Though, even in non-licensed roles you begin to see things tightening up.

    I recall, for example, an Associate Psychologist position (unlicensed) posting with the NYS Office of Mental Health. It requires a doctorate in clinical psychology or a closely related field while specifically stating that doctorates in counseling, education, social work, I/O Psych and Guidance Counseling are unacceptable.

    But there's also a big difference between doctoral level qualifications and what a typical employer is willing to flex on with a bachelor's degree. It also depends on what your idea of "useful" is.

    I know of a nearby call center that pays its employees an extra $3k per year if they have a bachelor's degree (any field). Some people dig call center life. and I'm sure the extra $3k is welcome. In that sense, the degree is "useful." You might not get hired by Goldman Sachs even if you have a degree from a top school. If your lifelong goal was to work for Goldman Sachs and nothing else will satisfy you then even a degree from Wharton could be deemed less than useful.

    So what's your goal? If you want to be a self-employed real estate agent I'd say that any, or none, of these options will work well toward carrying you toward your goal (a real estate license would be a better use of your time). Your expectations play pretty heavily into whether the degree is considered 'useful."
     
  18. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I think that's called sado-masochism.:yup::yes(1):
     

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