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    voltechnologist is offline Registered User
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    Dissertation Only Doctorate

    I have what may be an unusual question and am hoping to get some good feedback here. I've been a tenure-track faculty member in Business for the past 5 years and am transitioning to a new faculty job in the spring semester. I'm an MBA and hold a PhD in Instructional Technology , so I was approved by the regional accrediting body as a related doctorate and allowed to teach graduate courses. In my recent job search I discovered some administrators unwilling to ask for an approval from the accreditors due to the tightening of regulations and general paranoia around the accreditation process right now.

    Since I already have a traditional PhD and the 18+ graduate hours in multiple Business disciplines I'm interested in finding an online doctoral program in Business, PhD or DBA, that I could pursue with just a dissertation. I have a good record of publishing so the often-discussed PhD by Publication would work if I could find a school admitting outside candidates to work remotely. Basically I just need to get something on my vita that says "doctor" and "business" on the same line to calm nervous provosts and compliance officers. How I ended up with an out of field doctorate in the first place is another story, like a lot of things it made sense at the time...

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
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    Kizmet is offline Moderator
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    In general, the universities that have "dissertation only" PhD programs are found in England, Australia and South Africa.
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    You're talking about years worth of effort and considerable expense. If I were in your situation, I'd look instead at AACSB bridge programs -- or just stick to teaching for schools that were willing to back me up.
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    I used to include a section on this in Bears' Guide, listing dozens of schools (Kizmet is correct: all British, Australian, or South African) that do this. But it typically is a very long and not simple process. The late "Uncle Janko" probably did it as well as anyone could, with a South African university, and it took him more than five years. No US school would do it (at least officially; that is why I put a 'bending the rules' section in the book) because the regional accreditors typically limit the amount of transfer credit into a graduate degree program to 25% of the required total. Finally there is the matter of whether a PhD from a little-known-in-the-US, and not necessarily highly regarded in the UK institution would really be a career-advancer. Luton University used to be one of the faster approaches, for instance. Luton (interrabang).

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    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.

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    Your welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.
    It's will be AWESOME to watch how a dissertation committee handles you. Remember, over 50% of all dissertation candidates fail or walk away from the process without being awarded a doctorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.
    Well, with this kind of attitude I have to wonder why other universities are willing to go to their accreditors for you, maybe it has nothing to do with credentials and more to do with attitude?
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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.
    Wow, I didn't realize when you search Google for "dissertation only doctorate" it brings up results for "AACSB bridge program". That's amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.
    Your contribution will be missed. Best of luck or whatever you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Wow, I didn't realize when you search Google for "dissertation only doctorate" it brings up results for "AACSB bridge program". That's amazing!
    Google, it just keeps getting better and better.
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    I thought it was a Google search that led him to this board.....
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    I can see your disappointment that we didn't, within one day, find you a doctoral program so special that it's never been described on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    I have what may be an unusual question and am hoping to get some good feedback here. I've been a tenure-track faculty member in Business for the past 5 years and am transitioning to a new faculty job in the spring semester. I'm an MBA and hold a PhD in Instructional Technology , so I was approved by the regional accrediting body as a related doctorate and allowed to teach graduate courses. In my recent job search I discovered some administrators unwilling to ask for an approval from the accreditors due to the tightening of regulations and general paranoia around the accreditation process right now.

    Since I already have a traditional PhD and the 18+ graduate hours in multiple Business disciplines I'm interested in finding an online doctoral program in Business, PhD or DBA, that I could pursue with just a dissertation. I have a good record of publishing so the often-discussed PhD by Publication would work if I could find a school admitting outside candidates to work remotely. Basically I just need to get something on my vita that says "doctor" and "business" on the same line to calm nervous provosts and compliance officers. How I ended up with an out of field doctorate in the first place is another story, like a lot of things it made sense at the time...

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
    Since you have alredy a PhD but need an extra business credential, you could be a good candidate for the Post doctoral bridge in business from AACSB.

    Have you looked into this? You could be awareded a PhD in business based on your publication by Sunderland university. You can look at the link below:

    Applying for PhDEx

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltechnologist View Post
    Well, since this board apparently doesn't offer any "advice" that I can't find on Google by myself I'll just cancel my membership and move on.
    Dont forget to ask for a refund for your membership, I am sure that the advice you are getting is not worth the $0 you invested for this.

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    I actually just joined the forum because of the great responses to the above comment. I don't even know what the point is of this forum, I just liked the responses.

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