Walden University Earns ACBSP Accreditation

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  1. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

  2. Ike

    Ike New Member

  3. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    Is Walden business Ph.D now better than on from Capella due to this accreditation?

    You're right about the AACSB accreditation, it's supreme. However, is Walden's business Ph.D (MBA, etc) now a notch up on other schools like Capella who do not have such a business accreditation? I'd assume so...

    I ask, as I am presently researching the difference between the two. Both seem very similar in time and particulars, but Walden has been a round a bit longer, is affiliated with Laureate Int, and has their new business accreditation. A definite step in the right direction.

    Thanks for any input.
     
  4. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    For quick reference and abstracted somewhat:

    ACBSP - Teaching
    AACSB - Research

    Either = Good.

    Any program with either of those is better than any program with neither of those, faculty job speaking.
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    So that put NCU in the "good" group as they have had ACBSP for quite some time!
     
  6. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    True, but when a time based argument is made for accreditation level I always think of the following buddhist axiom:

    "The truly enlightened never fail to continually forge themselves."

    So if they've held on to the ACBSP and not applied for AACSB, is that by choice? strategy?

    Best,
    ITJD
     
  7. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Well, I would hardly think they would label themselves as a "research" facility. That would be like them applying for a nursing accreditiation...that is just not what they do. Research is not what any of the other online RA schools do either...or most/many B&M schools.
     
  8. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    AACSB has expectations that most faculty will be hired on a full-time, tenure-track basis, and that the school will sponsor a significant degree of research. The typical online-only school doesn't operate under that kind of model. There are AACSB-accredited distance MBA programs, but they are typically offered by traditional B&M business schools.

    In theory, it might be possible for an online-only school to commit to AACSB standards, hire tenured faculty, encourage them to publish, etc, and to eventually become AACSB accredited. But it would likely be difficult to make this model work in practice. Seems like this apporach could result in the worst of both worlds: it might combine the high tuition associated with AACSB schools, and the low prestige associated with online-only schools.

    In other words, a hypothetical AACSB-accredited MBA from an online-only school might turn out to be uncompetitive relative to other online schools (because it would cost much more), and it might be equally uncompetitive relative to other AACSB schools (because it would lack traditional B&M prestige and name recognition).
     
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  9. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    Both good points CalDog! AACSB might be nice to have to move further towards online-only prestige, but at what cost... Perhaps then, the other, ACBSP accreditation, might be a very good fit for now in the strictly online schools. Believe off-hand, NCU and Walden both have it in the biz programs.

    Any others that host a Master or Doctoral level biz type degree, whom are strictly online?
     
  10. jlock

    jlock New Member

    Liberty University is now a candiate for ACBSP. This works great for me, as they discount all military veterans down to $250 per credit hour (even for Masters level). I realize candidacy does not equal accredited (yet) but I don't believe they would not receive accredidation as their programs are solid.
     
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  11. mathguy

    mathguy New Member

    ACBSP at Walden is Partial

    Walden's business programs have the ACBSP stamp but its accounting degree program are not ACBSP accredited. ACBSP has a special accreditation for accounting which few online schools possess. I don't know of any online schools that have this accrediation but I didn't look at ACBSP's site to find out.
     
  12. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Interesting how NCU has been vehemently criticized around here and yet they have had ACBSP accreditation for a long time.
     
  13. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    I just got back from Lynchburg for an in-person class at Liberty. You are right to say that their programs are solid. I was very impressed with the quality of their doctoral program. I met quite a few professors as well and was equally impressed with them. I'm sure the program you are in is just as good. Liberty has got it going on, IMO.
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Cheers....
     
  15. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    ACBSP accreditation is only one apect of NCU, which in the past has been accused of shady dealings, and financial instability. If you were to base a decision on NCU using ACSB accreditation, it would be a cognitive bias known as anchoring:

    "During normal decision-making, anchoring occurs when individuals overly rely on a specific piece of information to govern their thought-process. Once the anchor is set, there is a bias toward adjusting or interpreting other information to reflect the "anchored" information. Through this cognitive bias, the first information learned about a subject (or, more generally, information learned at an early age) can affect future decision-making and information analysis."

    Anchoring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Poor NCU customer support and instability of programs, staff and policies have been discussed here and elsewhere.
     
  16. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    Ok then.... cricket noises....

    Anyway, does anyone know if Capella has been pursuing this accreditation? I ask, because I have been thinking of going into either Capella or Walden's PhD in Management (Org Mgt) programs. I am leaning towards Walden more now due to this accreditation. Thoughts?
     
  17. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I am happy with NCU so far. I am in my fourth class right now and the mentors are fine, the course structure and format is perfect for me, the books are good but the advisor I was assigned left the school after being a pretty lousy advisor. She took her sweet time in getting back to me when she did get back to me. I ended up using other advisors to get my course questions answered.
     
  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    The advisors and support staff suck - plain and simple. Otherwise, the education you receive if really good.
     
  19. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    Randell, I respect your opinion. I do have to ask, though, is it possible the quality changed since you were there? I see a lot of folks on LinkedIn have done well with NCU diplomas, but I wonder if most of these bodies got their degrees before current management arrived.
     
  20. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am confused, I said the quality is good and you seem to agree. It is the admin and policy side that kills them.
     

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