The Supreme Court and The State Approved or Unaccredited Universities

Hello friends, pardon my English, because I am writing from Puerto Rico.

As you know, I have a masters in criminal justice, so I must read jurisprudences. The question is the following one:

Exists some jurisprudence of the Supreme Court of the USA or of some State, that says the universities without accreditation are valid, worth and legal like RA universities?

If some exists, please write the number of the jurisprudence





M.A. Caribbean University
B.A. American University

 

If I have your question wrong Police I appologize...


If I read your question correctly, an unaccredited university may operate and be legal. It's validity and worth will be in question.

Nationally accredited universities are not accepted as equivalent to RA universities by many, hence unaccredited universities will never be considered equal to RA universities.

Conclusion - I believe the current direction for many of the States would be to define unaccredited university degrees as illegal. An unaccredited degree should never be equivalent to Regionally accredited university degree.

 

I doubt that anyone have ever challenged the legality of a state licensed or approved degree. It is a state function to license degrees.

Accreditation is purely voluntary and it has always been up to the particular institutions or states as to what they will or will not accept a particular degree as a qualification.

Licensing boards of most states will not accept an unaccredited degree, that the state itself licensed, as sufficient education for professional licensing. I can't imagine the courts forcing a reconciliation of this discrepency.

 

I believe that it is the tenth amendment to the US Constitution that says that anything in the constitution not specifically listed as something that the federal government is responsible for, will be the reserved to the states or the people. True that the federal government has usurped many powers over the years but authorizing schools with the power to grant degrees is still a state function. I would be very surprised if any case regarding the legality of an unaccredited degree has ever made it to the Supreme Court. If it did there would need to be some kind of argument that one of the other rights guaranteed under federal jurisdiction had been violated.

 

This means that if a person has a diploma in a university without accreditation, but with license or registered in the state, can legally place in the name letters Dr, M.A., or B.A.without no problem?

And, if some state prohibits it, this person can demand the person who forces him to clear those credentials?




M.A. Caribbean University
B.A. American University

 

In some states claiming an unaccredited degree is likely illegal. In other states, it is okay. Most of the laws are below the federal level. For example, I don't believe there is any federal law against murder. Of course all 50 states have a law against murder but there is a large difference between the laws of the different states.

 

Hello friends, pardon my English, because I am writing from Puerto Rico.

It is true that the unaccredited universities (but licensed/register) won the first two rounds in States Supreme Courts?

The states are Louisiana and Florida?

M.A. Caribbean University
B.A. American University

 

Bill Huffman wrote:

> I don't believe there is any federal law against murder.

What was the Unabomber convicted of?

http://www.capdefnet.org/fdprc/contents/fed_cap_off/federal_cap_offenses.htm

 

Why is it that folks who go to RA, NA, or the tiny handful of reputable UnA schools don't need to worry about the question of legality, nor to try to parlay the bare assertion of legality into a claim of merit for the degree obtained?

Or,

It's legal to eat roadkill skunks, but why would you?

 

Weasels are too fast?

 

Sounds like the next episode of Fear Factor.

 

Lol Dennis!

 

There is never a problem using a degree from a state approved UnA school in the state where the school is licensed. The trouble begins when a person uses an unaccredited degree in certain states other than the one where the school is licensed.

Whether a degree satisfies the licensing boards of a given state is a separate issue.

 

Depending on the meaning of "never a problem", this is true. For example, it would not be illegal to claim the degree. It does NOT mean that the degree will somehow always be "acceptable" within that state. It just means that you don't have to worry that you're breaking the law by claiming the degree.

 

Bill, it would be nice if you acknowledged having been wrong about federal laws against murder, before further pontificating on what's legal.

 

Mark, I was wrong about there not being federal laws against murder. I remembered being told that in school many years ago. Perhaps I remembered wrong or perhaps laws have been passed since then. (I did notice that the date on that law was given as 1998, IIRC.) I tried to use an example to make a point. I still believe the point was true but the example was wrong, for that I apologize to you Mark and to the whole forum.

I also apologize for pontificating before apologizing my only lame defense is that the post was three months old so I didn't bother.

 

But there is no federal law against murder. There are federal laws against specific types of murder.

 

Just as there's a distinction between worthwhile UnA or CA-approved schools and
Hawaii Fried Skunk.

 

My post was misleading, maybe VERY misleading. I said that using an unaccredited, state approved degree was "no problem" in the state that licensed the school. I should have said, "It's not a crime".

There may be PLENTY of problems trying to use such a degree in employment, academia, or professionally.

 

Police,

Unaccredited universities won the first two rounds of what? If a university is approved by the state, then it is a legal degree and the person can place the letters after their name. John Gray (the author of "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus") always puts "PhD" after his name on his books, television appearances, etc., even though he possesses an unaccredited doctorate.

Has any court ruled that a unaccredited universities are as valid as regionally accredited universities? None of which I am aware.

Now, when you speak of "unaccredited universities", that would include legal state approved schools and also illegal diploma mills. A degree from the former will be far less useful than an RA school, but will not land you in jail or get you fired (unless, you misrepresent that degree). An unaccredited degree from a diploma mill can get you in a lot of trouble if you attempt to use it any way other than as a conversation piece on your wall.

Tony Piña
Faculty, Cal State U. San Bernardino

P.S. I am Puerto Rican, too