Do any CA schools offer a DBA anymore?

Do any CA schools, besides SCUPS offer a DBA anymore?

 

Probably not, as the Ph.D. is a much more desirable degree. Since unaccredited schools are generally proprietary, it would make sense to give the people what they want.

 

I note that the Edinburgh Business School of Heriot-Watt University will be introducing a 100% non-resident DBA this fall, and apparently plans to market it fairly extensively in North America.

(Their on-line MBA, incidentally, is now the second largest MBA of any kind on the planet, after U of Phoenix, but ahead of Open U.)

 

I haven't updated my list of CA approved programs in many months (and recently the BPPVE Directory seems to be down), but you might look at Calif. U. of Bus. and Tech., Newport U., California Pacific U., Education America U. (which seems to have split into two schools, one accredited by ACICS, the other retaining their doctoral programs), International School of Mgmt. and Asia Pacific Intl. U.

All of these schools offered CA-approved DBA's about a year ago, but I haven't looked at them recently. I can't say how many were DL and how many were on-campus programs.

There does seem to be a trend towards dropping doctoral programs and seeking accreditation: Pacific States U. dropped their DBA and were accredited by ACICS, we all know about Cal. Coast and DETC, I'm not sure what's happening with SCUPS, Central State University has also applied to DETC. And Education America's division into two schools, one accredited by ACICS, the other offering the doctorates.

Interestingly, none of the DBA schools (which one would expect to be the most academically high-powered CA-approved B-schools) have been accredited by WASC.

 

Wow! How big is their diploma?

 

That is great news. Hopefully, this will spur some "traditional" U.S. universities into offering some totally non-resident doctoral programs.

 

Hi Bill Dayson: What happened with Education America?

(BTW, thx for the Fla classics info on the other forum.)

 

I spoke to rep from SCUPS and was told that they will discontinue their PhD / DBA program the end of this month.

When I asked why many the CA schools were ending the PhD/DBA programs and applying for accreditation. I was told that it was the trend because many companies require schools be be "Legitimate" and accreditation provides it.

 

CA approval does not provide legitimacy to a degree?

 

Hi Unk.

I just went and looked at their website. ( http://www.educationamerica.com ) and it redirected me to Remington College. It seems that the accredited side of the old CA-approved EAU has repositioned itself in the market and renamed itself. It's now the San Diego campus of a nationwide proprietary business college and it currently seems to only offer bachelors degrees.

Dunno what happened to the doctoral programs. They seem to have dissappeared. My guess is that these changes were already well underway when I last looked more than a year ago, and that they were just teaching out their currently enrolled graduate students. Apparently the graduate programs have subsequently been shut down.

Yeah, I thought it was very cool. It seems to be one of the best DL options available anywhere in that subject. I happened on it unexpectedly.

I've long preached that DL might be a great way way for programs to increase their enrollments in subjects that scholars passionately love but which don't have a lot of job prospects.

Doing a Ph.D. in Ancient Civilizations might not be rationally justifiable if it means devoting years of full-time study as a on-campus scholar/monk with few prospects at the end of the tunnel. But doing it on a part-time DL basis from home while remaining employed might be easily justifiable, particularly if it is competing with less productive activities. What's more, many teachers can probably get thir current employers to pay for it.

I guess that the University of Florida was thinking along the same lines. I hope that we see more of this kind of thing from other universities.

 

Let me re-phrase...adds credibility by being accreditied.

 

I hope this isn't a stupid question!

So why is the PhD more desirable than the DBA? They both require a fair amount of structured coursework (except UK) and a dissertation and defense.

The DBA is probably more of a professional degree while the PhD is more on the academic side, but are there any other differences?

 

Re: I hope this isn't a stupid question!

Some DBA programs are indistinguishable with Ph.D. programs. Others allow alternatives to the dissertation.

I'd be pressed to find a situation where one would be acceptable while the other not. But there's that old "Ph.D. uber alles" thing. (I don't subscribe to it.)

 

I agree.

(Although next time, grammatically speaking, you need a period instead of a question mark.)






Tom Nixon

 

While not a distance program, Golden Gate University does offer at DBA. See http://www.ggu.edu/schools/business/business_admin_dba.htm .

 

According to a conversation with Dr. Dalton of California Pacific University a few weeks ago, they will continue to offer the DBA for the foreseeable future.

Cheers,

Dave