Walden says they don't accept Berne credits & never heard of Regina Harris

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by John Bear, Aug 5, 2003.

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  1. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Following the claims and attacks here by the person identifying herself as Regina Harris, I passed the messages along to a man I know at Sylvan, the parent company of Walden. This is his reply:

    (Moderator's note:

    John had originally requested a clarification of his statement, based on a request from someone at Walden. We made the clarification, which apparently upset someone else at Walden, so we've now been asked to remove the clarification, which we are doing solely out of courtesy and not because we believe there is any justification for either the clarification or removal thereof.


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    "I conferred with Dr. John Vinton, Dean of the School of Management at Walden. Dr. Vinton was concerned about the implications of the allegations made by "Dr. Harris," and followed up by asking Walden's Human Resources department to conduct a thorough database search to verify the existence of this person and their purported connection to the
    university.

    The search came up empty. No "Regina Harris" was found, either currently or historically, to be or have been a faculty member, staff member, or student at Walden.

    As for Berne University of St. Kitts, Dr. Vinton advises that Walden does not recognize it as an accredited institution. In fact, several years ago a Walden faculty member announced a concurrent appointment to the Berne faculty and was required to abandon the Berne appointment as a condition of remaining on the Walden faculty. Dr. Vinton points out that, while it is possible that a student holding a Master's degree from Berne might be
    studying at Walden, if such a student does exist they likely hold a second Master's from an accredited institution.

    Walden's general policy is to accept credits and degrees only from regionally accredited institutions. This policy was recently expanded to
    include institutions accredited by organizations recognized by the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA), but Berne falls into neither
    category."
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    So it's Regina in the dustbin of (non-)history.

    Thanks Dr Bear.
     
  3. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    So Walden now accepts nationally accredited degrees. This is relevant to another thread in this forum. DETC and others do seem to be gaining recognition.
     
  4. c.novick

    c.novick New Member


    I thought this was interesting as well. A small positive step in the right direction for DETC. DETC still has a very long and very arduous road to travel before they can even begin to claim mainstream RA acceptance.

    It is a little positive news though. :)
     
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    It sounds good to me too. My internet was broken for two days. Soddenly, not'ing but greps, epples, Lut'rans, and cows. Dumnezeu, I miss you guys! Gled to be beck. Janko
     
  6. c.novick

    c.novick New Member


    Welcome Back Uncle :) Good to have you back!
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Interesting. Poor Berne U. The folks defending it end up discrediting it & that fits nicely with the insitution's problems. Strange case. They start out bumpy and finally ditch the bad accreditations and go through the GAAP thing. Then in a masterful move they never clear up Alan Contreras' simple request in order to remove them from the ODA list of schools whose degrees are illegal for use in Oregon. No evidence of networking with other schools to gain credibility for their degrees.

    And................so reasonably priced too :rolleyes:

    North
     
  8. SIbbott

    SIbbott member

    Caught in an awkward position with his vendetta against Berne University, Alan with his back against the wall clings to his last straw – drag Ross University into the brawl and it would give the impression that he (Alan) is being neutral, given that Berne and Ross University (Vet School) are the only private schools in Saint Kitts which are fully accredited by the Ministry of Education.

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    -----Original Message-----
    Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:41 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Please Advise - Ross University

    Dear Sir:

    I have noticed that degrees from Berne University are not valid for use in Oregon. I would like to attend Ross University (veterinary school) in St. Kitts, however, I was informed that this institution is chartered and accredited by the Ministry of Education (St. Kitts). My question is : Would a degree from Ross University be acceptable for use in Orgeon?

    Thanks,
    S. Ibbott
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    Subj: RE: Please Advise - Ross University
    Date: 8/7/2003 2:46:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    From: [email protected] (Alan Contreras)

    “Ross University is not listed by AACRAO as an acceptable international institution. Oregon will not accept Ross degrees.

    However, Ross was recently purchased by an accredited U.S. college. You might contact Ross and ask when they will have U.S. accreditation.”

    Alan L. Contreras
    Administrator, Office of Degree Authorization
    Oregon Student Assistance Commission
    1500 Valley River Drive No. 100
    Eugene OR 97401
    (541) 687-7452 fax (541) 687-7419
    [email protected]
    Information: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda
     
  9. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Actually there are other schools listed on the St. Kitts website.

    So people appointed by a state to enforce academic standards have a vendetta because they don't recognize a school that is not recognized by American academia, in general. Some people would call it doing his job.

    The best indication is that Berne is not recognized close to home (as they state it) by the U of the West Indies.

    As to Ross University's vet school, I assume there are many other states that do not recognize it. With Caribbean medical schools, different states recognize different ones. Some states recognize almost none.
     
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I can't see where the material attributed to Contreras "dragged" Ross in at all. He responded to a (shill?) question and suggested the inquirer contact Ross. Doesn't sound desperate to me--and I'm not particularly a fan of the Oregon office.
     

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