Quality of Professors at US State Approved/Registered Universities

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by RJT, May 13, 2003.

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  1. RJT

    RJT New Member

    We have long sinced argued, lamented, yeilded and adjusted our views of Leaglly Operating (for conferrment purposes) US State Approved/Registered graduates, is there utility in the obtainment of degrees form K-W, CCU, PWU, SCUPS, Century, Chadwick and the like, or is the obatinment futile, and a resume pox?

    Let's look at from a different angle, what about the faculty of State Appoved Schools, are they esteemed, as qualified as their RA counterparts? Afterall, if there is knowlegde-share and learning fufillment, these are the representatives providing. I had a great experience with my professor at K-W, who also is a fulltime professor at St. Ambrose. Yet, I've heard critcism about lack of oversight, lean satffs, etc. This was not my experience, the professor was always responsive.

    Also, check out the attached professional who is professor at PWU:

    http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~zpsych1/schedule.html

    "Scott Fraser studied mathematics, philosophy, psychology, and theology at Stanford University. His senior Psychology Honors Program thesis at Stanford was published and selected later as a Bobbs-Merrill "Classics in Social Science" reprint. At New York University he pursued the study of psychology under the direction of Dr. Philip Zimbardo and received a Ph.D. degree in Experimental Social Psychology. While in New York he also received a Clinical Hypnosis Training degree. Later, he completed two years of post-doctoral training in neurophysiology, neuropsychopharmacology, and neuropsychological assessment.

    For over twenty years he was a professor of psychology teaching in both the psychology program and medical school programs at the University of Washington and the University of Southern California and was a visiting faculty member at Stanford University. He has received numerous all-university teaching awards from the colleges at which he was a faculty member along with national distinguished teaching of psychology honors from the University of Houston, the University of Missouri, and Psi Chi. He has also received several international scholar honors from universities inAustralia, Europe, and South Africa.

    His research began with studies of noncoercive social influence processes, determinants of prosocial, altruistic behavior, deindividuation factors in violence, quality effective teaching techniques, and jury decision making. More recently his work has focused on variables and processes which affect eyewitness memory and identification and on the common knowledge base of American jurors regarding psychology related to court cases.

    Eight years ago he resigned his professorship at U.S.C. to become the C.E.O. of the Neuropsychology Foundation, an organization dedicated to promoting international scientific research on the human nervous system and behavior. With a group of other scientists, he founded Applied Research Associates, Inc., a consortium of scientists and experts who provide consulting and research services to private and public agencies. A.R.A. has grown to a roster of over 250 Associate experts across four divisions with Fraser as the president. He also holds currently two faculty positions. He is a Professor at Pacific Western University and a Faculty Associate in the U.S.C. Medical School's Institute of Psychiatry, Law, and Human Behavior. He has qualified as an expert witness on several aspects of human behavior and testified in state and federal courts in the U.S.A. and in other countries."

    Comments and thoughts from the peanut gallery?
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    And the point is?

    Oh, wait, I get it. Someone is doing a thesis on
    People With Good Degrees Who Do Dumb Things

    Richard Nixon had a J.D. from Duke.
    Ted Kaczynski has a Ph.D. from Berkeley.
    Michael Milken has an M.B.A. from Wharton.
    Doctor Crippen attended the U. of Michigan.
    Bill Clinton has a Master's from Oxford.
    Scott Fraser has a Ph.D. from Stanford.

    Etc.

    John Bear
    Galerie d'arachide
     
  3. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    I can only guess that these faculty take little or no time to review or understand the K-W credit for life experience hocus pocus. I would be willing to bet that the particular faculty member you cite would not be willing to offer credit for a course that a student "experienced", as opposed to demonstrating having met certain learning objectives.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I seem to recall that in several unflattering articles in The Chronicle of Higher Education, some K-WU faculty members were reluctant to discuss their roles with--or their understanding of--Kennedy-Western.
     
  5. jon porter

    jon porter New Member

    Clinton has an honourary doctorate from Oxford -- a doctor of laws by diploma, if memory serves. He never sat his exams there whilst a Rhodes scholar.

    jmbp
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You practically did the whole dissertation for someone from one of these schools. All they need to do now is to make the font bigger, add an abstract and a bibliography.
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Too late, Bill.

    I just submitted the exact dissertation you described above via e-mail attachment to, well, a school which advertises in USA Today. My Ph.D. is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I had them overnight it.
     
  8. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Yep. Here's a link to the article. (Not sure if you need to be a subscriber for this one. Probably.

    From this story:

    "They give the indication on their Web site that they're accredited, but I didn't check into it," says the associate professor, asking to remain anonymous. "I hope they're not deceiving anyone."
     
  9. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    I read the story. The degree to which both professional educators and students will rationalize never ceases to amaze me. I read it, I scratch my head, and I think I am glad that I am not in a personal relationship with someone that has this propensity as a core belief.

    As the one faculty member said, he didn’t care what kind of institution it was, or whether it offered credible degrees. What he personally provided was all good. Perhaps his own college education did not include a course in professional ethics. Would that character might be considered more important than academics.
     

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