Thread: St. Luke Evangelical School of Biblical Studies

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The paragraph regarding accreditation is interesting.

Originally posted by Russell A. Morris
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The paragraph regarding accreditation is interesting.

"Specifically, this school will not claim accreditation from The International
Accrediting Council, Transworld Accrediting Commission, Eastern Accrediting Association of Colleges, Universities, and Seminaries, the
Accrediting Commission International, or any other organization known and recognized to be "accreditation mills" which are not officially recognized and whose sole purpose is to
imply official accreditation which does not exist. St.Luke Evangelical School Of Biblical Studies will not now or at any time engage in such deceptive practices"

Isn't this comforting........so am I to believe that a doctorate from this bible college is legitimate according to Rev. Ford?

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I noticed, after reading the whole bloody mess, that there is a section on "pastoral depression." This website induces what it cannot cure.

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Originally posted by roysavia
so am I to believe that a doctorate from this bible college is legitimate according to Rev. Ford?

According to the Reverend Ford, it would seem so. Good news, huh?

Originally posted by uncle janko
I noticed, after reading the whole bloody mess, that there is a section on "pastoral depression." This website induces what it cannot cure.

So true.

Lets be "less-than-wonderful" for the Lord.

North

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Originally posted by uncle janko
I noticed, after reading the whole bloody mess, that there is a section on "pastoral depression." This website induces what it cannot cure.

Item #8 in the "suggestions" segment of the pastoral depression lesson states that one may need to see a medical doctor. Perhaps St. Luke's also awards the MD.

No, Vladica, that was the OTHER St Luke's, more or less from Florida or Liberia or one of those places.

WOW! to think my Ed.D. dissertation was over 240 pages, when I only needed 2 pages for a D.Min. or a Ph.D.. Maybe I should get both! That would give me a triple doc and I could be well on my way to having the credenials of Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Trudy!

Originally posted by obecve
That would give me a triple doc and I could be well on my way to having the credenials of Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Trudy! [/B]

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She is an inspiration to us all:D

Originally posted by obecve
WOW! to think my Ed.D. dissertation was over 240 pages, when I only needed 2 pages for a D.Min. or a Ph.D.. Maybe I should get both! That would give me a triple doc and I could be well on my way to having the credenials of Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Trudy!

Actually, had you submitted your dissertation 2 pages at a time, you would have been awarded 120 doctorates! :D

Chumps at Oxford. I loved that movie, Roy.

Fine, but Dr Trudy has soothing pages of poetry, which is funny for a "woman warrior" or whatever...

I think the Trudy thread really needs to be canonized.



When down in the dumps and in need of cheering up, I oft take me away to theTrudy thread and role around there in the humor of la la land.

Originally posted by Bill Grover
Chumps at Oxford. I loved that movie, Roy.

Mine too Bill. Thanks.

Originally posted by Bill Grover
I think the Trudy thread really needs to be canonized.

When down in the dumps and in need of cheering up, I oft take me away to theTrudy thread and role around there in the humor of la la land.

Funny you should mention the Dr. Trudy thread, as there are indeed several interesting connections. Dr. Tudy is listed as a member of Rev. Dr. David M. Ford’s The First International Church Of The Web (see here). As The First International Church Of The Web owns St.Luke Evangelical School Of Biblical Studies , could it be that one or more of her degrees are from this institution?

Another link is that Dr. Kenneth Clarence Allen, Sr., the individual who was granted Master’s and Doctoral degrees from Jimmy Clifton’s degree mill (The Barton Warren Stone School of Divinity), is a legally ordained independent minister of Saint Luke Evangelical Christian Ministries (see here). The Rev. Dr. David M. Ford is the Administrator/Bishop of Saint Luke Evangelical Christian Ministries. The First International Church Of The Web and the St.Luke Evangelical School Of Biblical Studies fall under its umbrella.

Understandably, Bishop Ken Allen no longer claims his degrees are from the Barton Warren Stone School of Divinity. Instead, he claims they were issued by St. Paul Christian University (the mill Jimmy merged his school with, and on whose board of directors both Jimmy and his wife still sit) although the graduation dates remain the same. I hardly think it was necessary for Bishop Allen to change the name on his degrees (links to pictures of the new degrees can be found here), as it is unlikely anyone would notice (he holds four other Doctor of Divinity degrees). Doesn’t that tie him with Dr.X5 Trudy? :D

In the now famous thread, the only corroboration as to the legitimacy of her degrees that Dr. Trudy offered was membership in the AACT. (She described the act of filing out the application as “quite some task.”) What never came to light, however, was that Jimmy Clifton was one of the board members of the AACT. About a month ago when I "reminded" Jimmy of his affiliation with what could only be characterized as a certification mill, he immediately requested that his name and picture be removed from their Web site. The AACT promptly complied.

The AACT, however, continues to be run by a number of Jimmy’s friends and associates (several of whom run their own degree mills) and it freely (well, not exactly for free) dispenses such titles as Certified Clinical Pastoral Therapist and Certified Clinical Christian Therapist. Other titles they grant use similarly deceptive terms such as Registered, and Dr. Trudy lists herself as being a Licensed Clinical Christian Therapist (AACT).

The fact that I find most disturbing in all of this is that all of these individuals know, aid and abet each other.

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Is there a reason anyone would know the life histories of such an assortment meaningless institutions, or care.

They're just religious degree mills. There are a thousand more.