Holmes University?

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  1. dmd

    dmd New Member

    Has anyone ever heard of this place? Someone at my work got two degrees from there.
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick New Member

    I tried google...nothing comes up...
    You might want to find out more by getting some details, (like accreditation, programs, location, etc.) from their alumni.
    Hope that helps
    Patrick
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

  4. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Elementary, my dear dmd . . .

    I see in my book that they are one of many names used by the excessively odd Advanced Education of Mead, Washington.

    It seems Washington law links regulating of curriculum to awarding of degrees, but if all a "school" does is award degrees, without offering any education, they may be outside the scope of the law.

    Holmes offers all degrees, Bachelors through Doctorate, in any subject, based entirely on ones resume. You also have your choice of a variety of school names on the diploma, including Concoria, Concorda, Audentes, Valorem, Holy Acclaim University, and, of course, Holmes.

    The only thing a reverse yellow pages search found at the address are the A+ Real Estate Institute and the Home Boys Construction company. The website is registered to a Missoula, Montana address.

    Holy Acclaim, Batman, I've got my doctorate.
     
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Zowie! All I thought it was was a school connected with Religious Science.
    Middle Age 1, New Age 0.
     
  6. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    Ya know, an outfit like this could do some interesting modern art...suppose they created a pseudo random number generator that would select the degree title, name of school, and date of grant in an arbitrary fashion, and change each factor oh, say, every five minutes...you could have an MD from Holmes but be an historian five minutes later with a PhD from Concorda.

    I wonder if I could get NEA funding?

    Nosborne, JD
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The issue now becomes how to respond to this "someone at...work [who] got two degrees from" Holmes.

    Here are the options:

    1) Ban them from all academic conversations.
    2) Slip them a sticky note with the letters: www.degreeinfo.com.
    3) Everytime you see them coming, whisper and point.
    4) Say to them, "I know what you did last summer."
    5) Send their name to Madison University for a Ph.D. application.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Russell: 4) Say to them, "I know what you did last summer."

    Rich: The funniest thing I've read today. Bravo.:)
     
  9. dmd

    dmd New Member

    What if he's the head manager of the company?
     
  10. dmd

    dmd New Member

    By the way, thank you all for your replies, and even the jokes.

    Thank you, John Bear, for your response. I might need to purchase a copy of your book now.

    Are there criminal laws against claiming such fake degrees, or is it solely up to the company to decide whethor to take action?
     
  11. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    While all states, I think, have laws of some sort against fake schools, only a few specifically have laws against using degrees from fake (or unaccredited) schools. However all states can utilize existing fraud statutes if they really wanted to pursue someone. For instance, the Superintendent of Schools of California's 2nd largest school district was charged under general fraud and misrepresentation laws, since California had nothing specific relating to degree claims.
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Then I'd say that the head manager of your company is an academic fraud. BTW, I've seemed to notice that sometimes people don't really like being exposed as academic frauds. You know it kind of defeats the the whole reason they became an academic fraud in the first place. Of course it's possible that your head manager just has this great sense of humor and he was going to let everyone in on the joke at the next company Christmas party.
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    And sometimes it's best to contemplate what you know in serene silence...
     
  14. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I wonder after which Holmes this university is named? Oliver Wendell? Sherlock? John? Larry?
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Some states have such laws. What state is it that we're discussing? Most states do not have specific laws but even if there are specific laws, the police seldom pursue these kind of issues. That means that typically it is up to the company to take action. It is also very common for companies to not take action in these kind of situations if it's felt that the fellow is doing a good job, otherwise. It seems that honesty and personal integrity are not always held in the highest regard.
     
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  16. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Or maybe if they get caught one of these days, they can always change the name of the school to Shemp Howard University.:D
     
  17. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    I think that Curly was a superior actor with deeper character development. Curly never got the respect he truly deserved.
     
  18. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    So be it...............Curly University.:D
     
  19. dmd

    dmd New Member

    John,
    I bought your book. In the list under Advanced Education it says, "Holmesy University" with two dots above the y. Is the "y" at the end a misprint?
     
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  20. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Drat. Yes, a typo. I've asked the publisher to put a correction on the www.degree.net site. If you do choose to try to do something about this degree-user and want a confirming letter from me or from the publisher that it should be "Holmes," just ask.

    John Bear
    [email protected]
     

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