anything cheaper than CCU?

Is there anything that would be accredited and cheaper than california coast university? out of the unaccredited/state approved they seem to be the only passable(barely) choice.

i looked into some of the others including the "big three", but though they can work out to be cheaper there seems to be a lot of confusion in the enrollment process. i just want to know a clear amount of money that i have to pay per course, per semester, etc.

The one school i was really into was Touro but it is way out of my budget. I'm not interested in any unaccredited/state approved schools other than CCU. Pacific Western seemed all right but i don't like the negative publicity associated with them and their other degree mill school in hawaii.

 

Are you talking about an undergraduate degree? Also, are you a resident of California? If you answer yes to both of those questions, why not look at CC's in your state and then think about one of the big three, or another modestly priced college (there are plenty out there, if you will describe your situation in more depth you will get more suggestions than you might believe)

Best of luck,

Tony

Edit,

No offense meant Brandon, but you have been here as long as I have, and you are asking this?

 

i'm in tempe, AZ right now but i have proof of residence in california so its not a problem as soon as i move back there.

yes i've been a member here for quite a while. i had enquired about CCU in the past but then i didn't want to be associated with some of the assorted shills that would show up here advocating degree mills. I just thought CCU was okay basically.

i would prefer to go the accredited route, but the main issue is financial, flexible course scheduling. basically what i'm asking is there anything else as cheap as excelsior, charter oak, tosc, AND
accredited.

some of the california community colleges come to mind. (santa monica college, Orange coast college etc)

 

I'd like to emphasis that suggestion. At least here in California, the community college system is an excellent deal. I did most of my lower division work at American River College (Sacramento). Compared to Berkeley lower division classes, I considered the American River classes superior, i.e., cheaper, better organized, more helpful, superior education.

 

I believe that the prices are the same at all the CA community colleges. I know that some have a few specialties that others don't (e.g., culinary arts, law enforcement) but I assume that the general education type classes are available from any of them.

 

thanks! looks like CA community college is the way to go.

 

If you are in Arizona currently, you might want to check out the Arizona Community College system, (such as Pima, Western, etc.). Also fairly inexpensive, and flexible as to courses.

At the next level the three Arizona universitites (AZ, AZ State, and Northern) all have DL programs, plus heavy night school schedules.

 

Prescott College in Prescott, AZ offers a self designed distant learning degrees. Not cheap but might fit your needs.

PS: I applied large number of California CC credits towards my BS from Regents/Excelsior.

Ian Anderson
BS - Regents
MS - CSUDH

 

So, as I understand it, none of the other hundreds of unaccredited schools is acceptable, but California Coast University is? I'm not sure I understand how that distinction can be made. What makes CCU "passable (barely)" when compared to other, unaccredited, DL schools? CCU is a much closer relative to your other example, Pacific Western, than it is to an accredited university. In fact, CCU is much closer to being a diploma mill than it is to being a university.

It might also save you a lot of time and money to go ahead and figure out that admissions/tuition/registration stuff. There's a reason schools like CCU make it soooo easy. It's because everything there is soooo easy. As a graduate of one of the "big three," I don't think getting through the administrivia will be your biggest challenge, and the result will (eventually) be a degree far more useful.

 

This would depend upon one's definition of a diploma mill. If the statement is taken without qualification, then the state of CA has practicing psychologists with Ph.D.'s from a diploma mill.

 

Russ:

I didn't say CCU was a diploma mill, and I never have. I simply pointed out that it is much closer to being a diploma mill than it is to being a recognized university. You've pointed out the only aspect about the school that even comes close to resembling a recognized university, it's ability to credential people to sit for some licensing exams. But even that is rooted in politics, not academics. It stems from a push by the California legislature to equate state approval with accreditation. No one in academia took it seriously, but the state, who determines licensure, was stuck with it. But now the licensing boards have struck back, and now, IIRC, graduates of some approved schools are not permitted to sit for the psychology license.

Is CCU a diploma mill? Not IMHO. But on a scale of 1 to 10, with RA being 10 and diploma mills being 1, I'd give it a 2 or 3. Acceptable in some situations (especially when no one's looking), but that's about it.

 

And you wouldn't even know it from the fine mental health standards in our beautiful state.

 

Here's the number of psychologists licensed in the state of California between 11/1/97 and 11/1/01, broken down by the school they attended.

http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/numofgrads.pdf

Here's some representative examples:

CA-Approved:

Cal Coast 9
Cal. Grad. Inst.- W. LA 75
Newport 8
N. Cal. Grad. U. 3
Ryokan Col. LA 39
Western Inst. Soc. Rsrch. 1

Research schools:

Claremont G.U. 3
Harvard 2
Stanford 3
UC Berkeley 11
UCLA 39
UCSF 1
USC 53

Other RA psych schools:

CIIS 25
CSPP 822
Fielding 28
Fuller 58
ITP 9
JFKU 2
Nova SE 7
Pacific Grad. School Psych 73
Pacific Grad. I. 13
Saybrook 2
Union Inst. 5
USIU 87
(USIU recently merged with CSPP to form Alliant U., accounting for a whopping 909)
Wright I. 95

 

Pffffft.

Oh please......

Veritas,

Michael


P.S. Thanks for the laugh Capt.

MB

 

Re: Pffffft.

Single textbook multiple choice unproctored exams. Is it accredited? Nope. Sounds like a diploma/degree mill to me.

 

I don't know about a 2 or 3, Rich. I think a high 4 would be more appropriate.

 

I don't know, Russell. I think a very low 4 is more appropriate. Then again, maybe I should go with a high 3. Wait no a ...

 

I believe psychologists in California must pass both written and oral state board tests (http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/exams/unaccredited.htm)
Looking at the latest year reported I see that 7/7 CCU grads failed the written exam.

 

And you're not really Russell A. Morris, are you....

Monsieur Didier Gailhaguet!!!

 

Actually, I'm a CCU scout!