Here is another one to be ripped up. Degrees for life experience. I applied for a free eval and was awarded all kinds of options. The one that scared me most was a degree in architecture and building technologies. While I spent years as a carpenter, I would not have the foggiest idea on how to calculate roof loads. Makes me think twice when entering a building on where the designer was credentialed. www.Penningtonu.com enjoy, Wardy