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    Another Delaware-Incorporated School...

    www-dot-cimlbsedu-dot-us

    BBA to Doctorate. No claims of accreditation but says its degrees are validated by "universities in Costa Rica and in Africa." They don't say which ones, but I know a couple of likely candidates. They also say US equivalencies will be given for these degrees by C*a*l*i*f*o*r*n*i*a University F*C*E. Here's a DI thread on that organization:

    California university fce

    Whois: The school site contact name is Peter Israel. Wilmington address, I think it's likely the office where incorporation documents were drawn up.

    The parent org. for this school appears to be http-colon-slashes-cimlglobal-dot-us Same contact, same address

    That's all for tonight.

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    Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica. One of CIML's affiliates is The Business Management Association, which, if memory serves me right had connections to Irish International University. The address, 3422 Old Capitol Trail, well, a few of Professor Usman Ali Awheela's (Irish University Business School, Charisma University) various organisations are also at that address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Another Delaware Incorporated School
    Delaware state law says that

    "2.1 ...no corporation or institution other than those authorized in Title 14 shall without first having received approval from the Department:

    2.1.1 incorporate in Delaware with the power to confer degrees"


    Where 'Title 14' refers to public higher education institutions in Delaware.

    292 Post Secondary Institutions and Degree Granting Institutions of Higher Education

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica....One of CIML's affiliates is The Business Management Association, which, if memory serves me right had connections to Irish International University. The address, 3422 Old Capitol Trail, well, a few of Professor Usman Ali Awheela's (Irish University Business School, Charisma University) various organisations are also at that address.
    Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica was my first thought - or suspect, when it came to a Costa Rican school that would validate these "degrees." The school originally had permission to grant three different degrees: a Bachelor's in Business, a Bachelor's in Accounting and one Master's degree in business, IIRC. And those - for students on-ground in Costa Rica only. It morphed into a distance "school" that awarded all manner of degrees including Doctorates to students outside Costa Rica, with no authority to do so. I've read that the Costa Rica campus has been inactive / empty for some time and I've seen reports of the school having headquarters in Colorado and also in Poland.

    @mbwa shenzi: Thanks for info re: The association with our Nigerian acquaintance, Prof. Awheela, formerly associated with the "Irish International Business School." For those who don't know him, here's his page: Prof. Usman Ali Awheela – IICFA

    @heirophant Thanks. Good to know. There are many schools that award degrees incorporated in Delaware. Quite a lot of them have zero authority to do so, but they do it anyway. We have threads on several such, lately. Perhaps I should make a list of as many as I can find and send it to the authorities. Most of the suspect institutions seem to incorporate there because:

    (1) It's an incorporation-friendly State
    (2) It makes people overseas think they're a fine US school -whether they're fine, American or neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann
    I've seen reports of the school having headquarters in Colorado and also in Poland....
    Oops. Now I think of it, not Colorado. Universidad Empresarial was said to have operations in Phoenix, Arizona -- and yes, IIRC, also Poland.

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    I note also the Costa Rican school UNEM's site now has a .uy (Uruguay) country code. An old site that had the Polish country code (.pl) now redirects to the Uruguay-coded site. UNEM pages still give the Costa Rica location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    I note also the Costa Rican school UNEM's site now has a .uy
    Well, you know, Dr Daniel Esteban Odin - he's the bloke with an alternative International Handbook of Universities and a Unesco of his own - is from Uruguay and has two degrees from UNEM. Many let's say interesting people hold doctorates from UNEM, including graduates of St Regis University and West Coast University Panama.

    Re the Business Management Association, yes, one of its professors was, I believe, also a professor at St Clements University. The Swiss incarnation of St Clements has a dual degree program with UNEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    Re the Business Management Association, yes, one of its professors was, I believe, also a professor at St Clements University. The Swiss incarnation of St Clements has a dual degree program with UNEM.
    Do you mean Dr. Johan Potgieter? If so - yes, he was a professor at St. Clement's. He was also awarded a Doctor of Letters by that school in 1999. http://stclements.edu/alumgrad.html#dofllist

    IIRC, he was also on Dr. Hubert Rampersad's team at those various Suriname-domiciled "Schools of the Americas" of two or three years back. I first heard of Dr. Rampersad (genuine doctorate - Eindhoven, Netherlands I believe) in connection with his previous "Personal Branding University" venture.

    And I noticed another .uy country code on a Costa Rican Uni - Universidad San Juan de la Cruz. That one's been mentioned a few times, too. Has Dr. Daniel Esteban Odin got anything to do with that one?

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    I think Prof. Potgieter is still with the St. Clement's group. On the Web, he's thanked for his help in connection with the licensing of St. Clement's Institute, Cambodia and he's currently listed as Course Director of Technology Programs at St. Clement's University, Somalia. Come to think of it, CIML-Delaware said its degrees were "validated by Costa Rican and African universities." I think if I wanted to get a a CIML degree validated, I might well try St. Clement's University, Somalia. ... but alas, I have no such degree.

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    An interesting distinction, held by Prof. Potgieter, of St. Clement's and the Business Management Association: In the write-up for his St. Clement's Doctor of Letters in Education award, it is mentioned that he " is also the South African representative of the World Association of Universities & Colleges." That, I believe, was the famous WAUC, the defunct "accreditor" owned by the late Dr. Maxine Klein Asher. She also owned "American World University." Her own degrees were real - but that can hardly be said of AWU, her "school," or WAUC, her "accrediting agency."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxine_Asher
    http://www.crystalinks.com/atlantisasher.html

    Dr. Asher, (1930-2016) had a life-long fascination with Atlantis, wrote several books on the subject and made a disputed claim to have discovered its location. Perhaps her spirit is now rejoicing in a new era beneath the waves of Atlantis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    And I noticed another .uy country code on a Costa Rican Uni - Universidad San Juan de la Cruz. That one's been mentioned a few times, too. Has Dr. Daniel Esteban Odin got anything to do with that one?
    Maybe, I don't know. Re San Juan de la Cruz, well, there's not much information out there in Spanish. Makes me wonder if the place actually exists any longer.

    Oh, almost forgot: yes, Potgieter. But there's another bloke from the Business Management Institute who's a St Clements professor too. Mervyn Pilley, if memory serves me right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi
    Mervyn Pilley, if memory serves me right.
    Yes. Dr. Pilley is associated with a remarkable number of organizations. Here he is as Vice-Chancellor of European Continental University, yet another Delaware-incorporated school. He is shown with the school's founder, Dr. Ralph Thomas . I'm sure I don't have to remind mbwa shenzi how many organizations and schools, mostly British, with which Dr. Thomas has been associated.

    http-colon-two slashes-myecu-dot-institute-slash-voice-dash-chancellor-dot-php (Yes, that's voice-chancellor; their typo, not mine.)

    @heirophant: Re: the Delaware regulations re: degree-granting schools. I think the bulk of the unaccredited Delaware-incorporated schools likely don't award degrees in their own name, in order to get around those regulations. I think often, a student pays the Delaware school, takes courses (or not) and ultimately gets a degree - not from the Delaware School itself, but from a cooperating overseas Uni that gets a share of the money - could be anywhere. It's been done in other countries; schools not properly authorized to grant degrees in UK have been known to have overseas schools award the degrees. I remember one school in UK that awarded law degrees (LL.B) from a captive unaccredited school in Arkansas. After losing its accreditation, the Arkansas school had folded and the British outfit bought the name and what was left, for this sole purpose. The degrees, of course, were not recognized in UK or USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi
    Re San Juan de la Cruz, well, there's not much information out there in Spanish. Makes me wonder if the place actually exists any longer.
    I can readily see why you wonder. Conversely, the English site has quite a bit of info and is copyrighted 2017. Detailed syllabi of several programs, etc. Makes me think they're concentrating on distance ed. for foreigners. They're offering Bachelor's degrees in Business, Accounting and Law, and one Master's in Business, for all of which they were approved by CONESUP - at least on-ground in Costa Rica - I have no idea if they were approved for distance ed.

    SJDLC is also offering degrees other than those specified by CONESUP, including Doctorates, as "Own Title." I don't know how acceptable that process is, exactly. Wiki has this draft article, that sounds like it might have been written by someone in marketing at San Juan de la Cruz! :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Own_title

    Sounds a bit bafflegabby to me. After reading, I've no confidence that an "Own Title" degree would find general acceptance. I think both these Costa Rican schools may be offering distance degrees above their pay-grade. Thoughts, anyone?

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