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    Berkshire Christian College

    Does anyone know where this school claims accreditation? Their website touts that you can earn an accredited degree, but doesn't list any accreditation information, and a search of the obvious suspects (NEASC, ABHE, TRACS, DEAC, ACICS) turns up nothing.

    They claim official affiliations with totally legitimate schools (Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Eastern University) so I don't think they're a scam or anything, I'm just curious. A faculty member at a school where I teach has their undergrad from there.

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    From reading through the site, it looks like a student takes classes through Berkshire but get a degree through Eastern or Gordon-Conwell.

    It does not look like Berkshire has its own accreditation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airtorn
    It does not look like Berkshire has its own accreditation.
    Indeed, that's how it appears. Undergrad degrees via Eastern, Graduate degrees via Gordon-Conwell.

    The distance offerings from e-Berkshire itself appear to be confined to individual courses, described as college-level but with no claims of accreditation. Cost $525 per course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airtorn View Post
    From reading through the site, it looks like a student takes classes through Berkshire but get a degree through Eastern or Gordon-Conwell.

    It does not look like Berkshire has its own accreditation.
    Interesting; they came to my attention because it's listed as the source of a colleague's undergrad degree in the school catalog. I would think that Eastern or Gordon-Conwell would be.

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    Indeed, that's how it appears. Undergrad degrees via Eastern, Graduate degrees via Gordon-Conwell.

    The distance offerings from e-Berkshire itself appear to be confined to individual courses, described as college-level but with no claims of accreditation. Cost $525 per course.
    That price would be an incredible bargain for courses that count towards a degree at Eastern, but especially at Gordon-Conwell. I'll have to look into this more when I have time.
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    During the 1980s, many Bible colleges faced declining student enrollments and financial resources. In 1987 Berkshire Christian College found it necessary to sell its campus. At this point Berkshire became a “college without walls” and eventually developed partnerships with Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and Eastern University. Today, we are expanding our distance learning programs via the internet with eBerkshire online courses

    So its just online. Interesting. I guess why this church https://ibb.co/i7hcvF is in its old building, want to talk about projecting. We get it already you're "edgy," BLM is a terrorist group.
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    I never heard of this school until Bruce mentioned it. But as B4 tells us, it seems to have been a B&M school that closed in 1987 (for financial reasons?), and has continued on in sort of a spectral DL afterlife since.

    So, was it accredited by somebody back in its corporeal B&M days? The bachelors degree might date back to that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant View Post
    So, was it accredited by somebody back in its corporeal B&M days?
    NEASC has a list of previously accredited, closed or merged schools, and Berkshire Christian College doesn't seem to be on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4cz28 View Post
    So its just online. Interesting. I guess why this church https://ibb.co/i7hcvF is in its old building, want to talk about projecting. We get it already you're "edgy," BLM is a terrorist group.
    BLM is a decentralized movement, not a group, much less a terrorist one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant
    So, was it accredited by somebody back in its corporeal B&M days?
    The school itself does not mention any accreditor in its history . So I don't think so...
    And yes - the school appears to have closed for financial reasons. The history says the campus was sold off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    BLM is a decentralized movement, not a group, much less a terrorist one.
    I strongly disagree, but neither of our opinions matter in the end. The person whose opinion does matter should be deciding soon;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    I strongly disagree, but neither of our opinions matter in the end. The person whose opinion does matter should be deciding soon;

    https://www.policeone.com/officer-sh...dge-to-decide/
    That's ridiculous, it's like suing "Pro-Life" because someone bombed an abortion clinic, when the pro-life movement is massive, decentralized, and overwhelmingly nonviolent.
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    Returning to the ostensible topic of this thread, this recent book Adventism Confronts Modernity seems to suggest (pp 120-121) that the then New England School of Theology renamed itself Berkshire Christian College and redesigned its programs, in hopes of gaining what was then known as AABC bible-college accreditation. I'm not sure if that was ever successful. But ABHE might be the place to look to see if this was ever formerly accredited by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    That's ridiculous, it's like suing "Pro-Life" because someone bombed an abortion clinic, when the pro-life movement is massive, decentralized, and overwhelmingly nonviolent.
    Steve, you are arguing against what they say they are. Have you been to any of their meetings? The advocating the killing of police.

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    Yes, I get that some people made a site and said that it was "official". Clever move on their part. That doesn't mean that everyone who considering themselves supporter of the movement is a member of that particular organization. "Black Lives Matter" started as a hashtag. No one owns it, and there are people with considerably varying beliefs who use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Yes, I get that some people made a site and said that it was "official". Clever move on their part. That doesn't mean that everyone who considering themselves supporter of the movement is a member of that particular organization. "Black Lives Matter" started as a hashtag. No one owns it, and there are people with considerably varying beliefs who use it.
    Did you read the website? Or even the history of the movement? Steve, it's not someone claiming ownership, its the first and largest group and it has over 100 local chapters. No goal post moving on this one my friend. I'm sure there are lots of people calling themselves BLM, yet the millions of dollars in grants and funds flows through the people who control the national movement. You have to join officially, so that has nothing to do with calling yourself a supporter. Most groups bar you white boys from joining. Much love for you Steve.

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