Not so wonderful

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Margret, Jul 10, 2002.

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  1. Margret

    Margret New Member

    What about all the accredited schools that are still not so wonderful? I'm talking about NCA accreditation of some tribal community colleges. I have attended a local one twice over the past 5 years for classes and have had horrible instructors with poor teaching skills. The classes, from my point of view, were then “self taught.” I also know an instructor there that bent the grading scale to give students A's and B's because they whine and want A’s! One of my instructors actually apologized to me because he didn’t give me an A but gave me a B instead. I hadn’t done very well on our one and only test (it was a take home.) I actually took it very quickly, as an experiment, right before we were to swap and correct them, to see just how much I absorbed in 13 weeks. My gosh, for college credit, I have usually had to earn/work for the credits. I have only taken 2 three-credit courses there and that’s it! If I’m taking classes, I want to feel good about the credits I earn. There are students, now graduated from this “accredited” institution, with AA degrees that will be more qualified for certain jobs then I, although I know the emotional intelligence of these classmates, have read their “papers” and heard them interact in class. It’s totally bogus! I have the equivalent credits accumulated (all from accredited schools) for an AA and job/writing/grant experience for a BA. I have been a library director for 11 years as it’s sole administration. People think all I do everyday is check books out and read! I wish.
     
  2. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    If it is any consolation, my guess is that you would be chosen over the other students. The credential matters, but you are pretty much on equal ground, and if these students are as you say, most hr people are pretty good and will pick this up.

    Tony

    Let's not get carried away on the paper stats. (learned that one from watching baseball :D )
     
  3. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Quackademia. That's what the Times Higher Education Supplement calls this sort of thing. If you think of the 12,000-or-so GAAP-recognized schools as a single huge company, it would have perhaps ten million employees and a very small number of regulators. Stuff happens.

    At the time my wife was ordered by her dean to change the F's to A's for six or seven foreign exchange students who had written no papers and taken no exams, the university had regional accreditation. (She quit rather than do this, and believes the A's were given. The school lost its regional accreditation not too long after, but immediately got national -- ACICS -- accreditation.)
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Yes this is a problem. IMHO, it is a strong argument for accreditation. The reason I say that is that the regional accreditation organizations will and, in the past, have taken the accreditation away from these type schools. If the school was not accredited and turned bad then it would take the public much longer to find out that the school had gone bad. For example say that Bob Jones University went south tomorrow. I believe that it wouldn't be public knowledge for years and even after it became public knowledge there would still be many people that wouldn't believe it.
     

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