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    another one bites the dust

    You can just hear Freddie Mercury singing it, can't you? but I'm not talking about the song. I'm talking about the death of another college following the death of ACICS.

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    At least their letting some graduate. It's far better then the note on the campus door letting you know you can't attend classes any longer. They went down in a way that tried to hurt less of their students. I guess that's the difference when a for-profit and non-profit shutters it's windows?
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    Ugh.
    There's a whole class of institutions like this: small and catering to international students. You may remember Virginia International University we discussed here: it's a larger member of the species. These schools are mostly not distance learning, because F1 regulations require the student to carry full course load and only 1 DL class can count towards it. I'm afraid many of these things will have to close, or continue unaccredited (if they can keep their SEVP privileges). A few, with resources, will try for RA. What Colorado Heights did is the ethical thing.

    Granted, schools like these are more likely to skirt certain rules; some are accused of being visa mills (outliers ARE visa mills, like infamous Tri Valley University). I for one feel that they fulfill a legitimate need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Granted, schools like these are more likely to skirt certain rules; some are accused of being visa mills (outliers ARE visa mills, like infamous Tri Valley University).
    I think that is more the crux of the issue, rather than the problems with ACICS.

    National American University (ACICS) is advertising for faculty members, so their accreditor's battle with the DoE seems to not have had a negative impact on their operations , so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    I think that is more the crux of the issue, rather than the problems with ACICS.

    National American University (ACICS) is advertising for faculty members, so their accreditor's battle with the DoE seems to not have had a negative impact on their operations, so far.
    NAU seems to be a much bigger operation, so the situation is not the same. Maybe they're preparing for RA.
    There are likely other factors in play, such as declining enrollments. They may well experience a "Trump effect", making it harder to recruit at certain countries. At a small school, even modest drop paired with ACICS uncertainty might be enough to put them under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    NAU seems to be a much bigger operation, so the situation is not the same. Maybe they're preparing for RA.
    They are RA with the HLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    NAU seems to be a much bigger operation, so the situation is not the same. Maybe they're preparing for RA.
    There are likely other factors in play, such as declining enrollments. They may well experience a "Trump effect", making it harder to recruit at certain countries. At a small school, even modest drop paired with ACICS uncertainty might be enough to put them under.
    What are you talking about? Trump effect? I was watching news from CNN Middle East...I shit you not the ticker said Trump will be deporting all immigrants as soon as he is in office. Is this what you are talking about? I can tell you one thing, screw globalism! I hope it effects their recruiting as we do not need any more foreign labor in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4cz28 View Post
    What are you talking about? Trump effect? I was watching news from CNN Middle East...I shit you not the ticker said Trump will be deporting all immigrants as soon as he is in office. Is this what you are talking about? I can tell you one thing, screw globalism! I hope it effects their recruiting as we do not need any more foreign labor in the US.
    Yes, this.
    "You" can always use some foreign labour as long as the incumbents have difficulty spelling "affect" in their first and only language. Trump himself acknowledges this, BTW.

    On the flip side, Canada can and will accept more international students in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Yes, this.
    "You" can always use some foreign labour as long as the incumbents have difficulty spelling "affect" in their first and only language.
    One sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy in an online debate is when the spelling and grammar corrections make their first appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    One sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy in an online debate is when the spelling and grammar corrections make their first appearance.
    I shouldn't be able to attempt this, as English is my third language. Just saying.

    More to the point, I believe that the vast majority of immigrants are net benefit to receiving society, all integration challenges notwithstanding. This is especially true for foreign students, even those attending no-name schools that cater to them. I can't think of a better way to start learning about a country then to be a student. Oh yes, insert a standard statement on how anyone who's not 100% Native American can be considered "foreign labor".
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