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    The Latest from DEAC

    I'm on DEAC's mailing list. The bulk of what they send out is pretty routine. Rarely does an accreditation action get my attention as this one has (though, admittedly, I was equally intrigued when Nations and UPeople became accredited).

    Some highlights I thought worth sharing:

    1. Newly Accredited:

    Union University of California - offering an M.Div. and an M.A. in Ministry
    Realtor University - A grad cert and a Master of Real Estate

    2. New Programs

    New Charter is now offering a Master of Science in Education
    Aspen now has expanded Ed.D. offerings
    University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences now offers an MHA (note: they are also RA)

    And lastly, the death rattle (show cause issued) can be heard at:

    The Antioch School of Church Planting
    American Business and Technology University
    The University of Fairfax

    What's interesting about Fairfax is that their degree offerings consist only of Masters and doctoral programs (and grad certs). So a traditional teach out might not benefit any currently enrolled students the same way that it might for an undergrad degree.

    Speaking of teach outs, it looks like Allied American University/High School has suspended enrollments and is teaching out its remaining students. I'm guessing their parent company decided to cut off some fingers to try to save the hand.
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    B.S.B.A. Colorado Technical University
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    I was shocked at Fairfax cost. I thought they might be a cheaper option as they offer no financial aid but they are not.


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    I think the Realtor University is an interesting development if only for the fact that they are offering a program that is fairly uncommon in DL.

    Union was good to see. But there are plenty of M.Div. programs in the sea.

    If New Charter is adding an M.S. in Education , that makes me wonder if a similar program might be in the works for Patten down the road. Providing a competency based M.S. in Education at an RA school would be a pretty neat option.
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    B.S.O.L. Thomas Edison State University
    B.S.B.A. Colorado Technical University
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    In response to Realtor U; having had extensive experience in Real Estate, I can see the usefulness of educating people on it, but I question the need for a degree in that field when licensing is what you need to be qualified to sell Real Estate, is much easier and faster to obtain, and on top of that much MUCH less expensive.

    New Charter stepped away for a while and are now back with a new pricing setup. Gone are the monthly and term structures which Patten still has. At $250 per undergrad course, it would sound like a good play to take some of the courses one needs to get as close to the 30 credit requirement Patten has, and then finish at Patten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningAddict View Post
    In response to Realtor U; having had extensive experience in Real Estate, I can see the usefulness of educating people on it, but I question the need for a degree in that field when licensing is what you need to be qualified to sell Real Estate, is much easier and faster to obtain, and on top of that much MUCH less expensive.
    Well, my first thought is that there are quite a few career paths in the real estate industry that don't involve selling. How competitive will this make you? I can't say. But it's interesting to see, nonetheless.

    New Charter stepped away for a while and are now back with a new pricing setup. Gone are the monthly and term structures which Patten still has. At $250 per undergrad course, it would sound like a good play to take some of the courses one needs to get as close to the 30 credit requirement Patten has, and then finish at Patten.
    Good to know. My biggest issue with NCU was their subscription model potentially meant a significant cash outlay with only an NA degree at the end of it. This sounds a bit more promising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    Well, my first thought is that there are quite a few career paths in the real estate industry that don't involve selling.
    True, but most of those either require no degree or require a degree of a different specialization altogether. It's not until you get into the legal side (Real Estate Attorneys) that having a degree at all really matters in Real Estate, and even then most Real Estate Attorneys only involve themselves in Real Estate as a side-gig and aren't as well versed in property matters as the general public probably thinks.

    I think the Real Estate degree will make one generally competitive in multiple fields, but would be somewhat of a lateral move in Real Estate itself outside of the obtaining of knowledge which is always valuable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    ... with only an NA degree at the end of it...
    Which of course isn't a bad thing as I'm sure you could attest with your M.S.M from the DEAC's UMT.

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    Given how big information security is in the Northern Virginia and Washington, D.C. area, I'm surprised the University of Fairfax hasn't done better, especially since the preponderance of federal employment means that their nationally accredited status shouldn't be a deal breaker for many students.

    I also see that their address is now listed as Roanoke, Virginia, which is a four hour drive from where they used to be located, in the infamous Toilet Bowl Building in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Given how big information security is in the Northern Virginia and Washington, D.C. area, I'm surprised the University of Fairfax hasn't done better, especially since the preponderance of federal employment means that their nationally accredited status shouldn't be a deal breaker for many students.

    I also see that their address is now listed as Roanoke, Virginia, which is a four hour drive from where they used to be located, in the infamous Toilet Bowl Building in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Oh well.

    I can see why they have not done well


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    Did the email give details regarding the expanded program at Aspen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningAddict View Post
    True, but most of those either require no degree or require a degree of a different specialization altogether. It's not until you get into the legal side (Real Estate Attorneys) that having a degree at all really matters in Real Estate, and even then most Real Estate Attorneys only involve themselves in Real Estate as a side-gig and aren't as well versed in property matters as the general public probably thinks.
    A similar case could be made with regards to the American College of Financial Services. While the American College is, perhaps, better known for a number of designations they award (CLU, LUTCF etc) for the insurance industry, they also offer a Masters and a PhD in Financial Planning .

    Realistically, how useful is that PhD in getting a job or being promoted? I'm sure someone benefits from it. But I would wager that the return is fairly minimal compared to the investment of time and money that goes into such a venture. Keeping in mind that this isn't a degree in quantitative finance.

    So, I'm not sure who benefits the most. Or if its just an ego thing. But it's still interesting to see it popping up.

    I think the Real Estate degree will make one generally competitive in multiple fields, but would be somewhat of a lateral move in Real Estate itself outside of the obtaining of knowledge which is always valuable.


    Which of course isn't a bad thing as I'm sure you could attest with your M.S.M from the DEAC's UMT.
    I would agree. If I earned a Masters in Real Estate, the return on that investment would be fairly minimal. Were I applying to a real estate company, of any variety, for an HR position it might give me an interesting talking point. But that would, at best, mean a lateral move.

    There are some pretty prestigious real estate programs out there. MIT has one, for example. So there are some people who are benefiting from a graduate degree in real estate. Then again, this could be due to the fact that you are earning a degree from MIT and networking with some high level real estate development people. That might have a lot more to do with your success than the paper.

    And I doubt that Realtor University is going to draw the same sort of impressed looks as MIT. I'll be curious to look back in a few years and see where their graduates tend to be working and in what sort of roles.
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    I read that DEAC information also. What I didn't understand is why Aspen U is expanding into AZ and the Wahington DC area.

    They are a 100% online.

    Any thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigan68 View Post
    I read that DEAC information also. What I didn't understand is why Aspen U is expanding into AZ and the Wahington DC area.

    They are a 100% online.

    Any thoughts?
    Recently we had a thread or two regarding WGU expanding into other states. Maybe that discussion applies to Aspen.

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