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    Followup -- for my own curiosity, I did quite a bit of searching for articles mentioning U. of Atlanta. I was unable to find ANY OTHER press source that mentioned the school in any context involving Axact. So, that does it. No story here, folks...

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    Get your own genuine fake degree, courtesy of Stephen Colbert.

    Available Now: ‘Stephen Colbert’s Totally Legitimate Online Ph.D Program’ - Speakeasy - WSJ

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    That's really rich. I especially liked the revived "Nixon University." Stephen Colbert has to be the funniest person on the planet. Proud fan, here...

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    Pakistani Time Bomb

    While no specific "university" is mentioned, it's easy to imagine some connection to Axact.

    MULTAN City News - thenews.com.pk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    While no specific "university" is mentioned, it's easy to imagine some connection to Axact.
    Not this time, it seems. Different degree of bogus-ness (bogosity?) The degree was an M.A. in Islamic studies - a degree from a madrassa, declared fake, apparently. No madrassas (religious schools) on the Axact list, at least as far as I know. It seems all madrassas are not created equal...

    Madrassa originates as a Persian word and I'm told the plural is madaris, although the form "madrassas" is common in English.

    "The Election Commission of Pakistan and the in-charge of Madrassa Jamia Qasmia Anwarul Aloom, Dera Ismail Khan, were made party to the case as the degree was issued by the madrassa."

    J.

    PS - PBS comment on (some) Pakistani madrassas here - not all, of course:

    "A madrassa is an Islamic religious school. Many of the Taliban were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan that teach Wahhabism, a particularly austere and rigid form of Islam which is rooted in Saudi Arabia."
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    OK, so I learned something unusual today. Thanks, Johann.

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    You're welcome - or Al’afw as (Google informs me) is the Arabic way to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    "A madrassa is an Islamic religious school. Many of the Taliban were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan that teach Wahhabism, a particularly austere and rigid form of Islam which is rooted in Saudi Arabia."
    That may be so, but I think it's important to mention that religious education in Pakistan is a parallel track in education in the country, stretching from primary to higher education . Degrees awarded by madrasas are considered equivalent (on the labour market, not academically) to degrees awarded by public and private universities in regular higher education . Substandard and questionable institutions exist in both systems, but there are of course also some really good madrasas in Pakistan, as well as good universities, both public and private.

    Meanwhile, what's left of Axact seems to be reorganizing things: the Axact school formerly known as Regent International University is now Innova University -innovauniversity dot com -, name changed in September and new websites with a distinct Axact flavour are being registered. The domain southamericauniversity dot com was registered in June, registration made out to someone in Nigeria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    Substandard and questionable institutions exist in both systems, but there are of course also some really good madrasas in Pakistan, as well as good universities, both public and private.

    Meanwhile, what's left of Axact seems to be reorganizing things: the Axact school formerly known as Regent International University is now Innova University -innovauniversity dot com -, name changed in September and new websites with a distinct Axact flavour are being registered. The domain southamericauniversity dot com was registered in June, registration made out to someone in Nigeria.
    Indeed, there are good schools of both types - madrasas and universities. As I mentioned - my quote (PBS) does not apply to all madrasas - or anywhere near all, for that matter. Just the Saudi-financed Wahhabi-centred ones. I think we can both agree on what I said earlier: "not all madrasas are created equal." Nor are universities - whether in Pakistan or anywhere else. Or why would we need this forum to sort 'em out.

    I'm amazed that with the whole regime crawling with investigators - and the principals fairly nabbed by the authorities - Axact seems to be undergoing a resurgence. It boggles the mind!

    J.

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    Innova University site is uh...interesting. Yes, it does indeed resemble an Axact site - but this one gives an American address: 700 N. Valley St. Anaheim CA. 92801. The accreditation page is also quite mysterious:

    "... Innova University is duly accredited by internationally recognized accreditation bodies" but it doesn't mention which bodies. No - not even one.

    If they're in California as they say, they'll likely need BPPE approval. Nowhere do they even mention BPPE...

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    Oh, my! Went to another Innova U. page (the FAQ) and found this halfway down:

    "Regent is a fully accredited university which is recognized by the globally renowned accreditation body QOECB (Quality Online Education Certification Bureau). Click here to learn more about QOECB." What's this? Borrowed boilerplate from Regent U. on the Innova page?

    The link didn't work so I Googled it. Yup -QOECB is the same outfit that accredited Axact's Nixon University - not Stephen Colbert's revived Nixon U. That's enough for me...

    J.
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    If the text started out as a much-modified snippet from the legit (SACS-accredited) Regent U - I should say stolen boilerplate. If it's from some Axact-originated fabrication called "Regent " -- then "borrowed" will do.

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    700 N. Valley St. Anaheim CA. 92801 - There is a virtual mail and forwarding company at this address. What a surprise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    ...the Axact school formerly known as Regent International University is now Innova University -innovauniversity dot com -, name changed in September and new websites with a distinct Axact flavour are being registered. The domain southamericauniversity dot com was registered in June, registration made out to someone in Nigeria.
    Sorry - missed that. Regent International has morphed into Innova U., as you say, mbwa shenzi.

    As far as South America U. goes - it bears a startling relationship to the Innova site. Ownership of Innova domain is behind a privacy screen but I'd figure the same hands may very well have been in the creation of both sites. South America U. claims accreditation from Something called ACFHE - Accrediting Council For Higher Education . This outfit once accredited a thingy called "California Creek University" - there's no longer a web-page for this CCU , but still something on Facebook and a couple of blogs. I came across something else that suggested Wallis and Futuna Is. might be - or have been - the home of the "accreditor" ACFHE, but I can't verify it. Totally unrecognized as far as US accreditation goes, anyway.

    Also, besides the similarities in general appearance and organization, the accreditation statements of both schools - Innova U. and South America U. contain exactly the same blurb:

    Since South America University is duly accredited by internationally recognized accreditation bodies, it is entitled to receive certain privileges such as the provision of financial assistance to its students in the form of grants and scholarships; both private and state sponsored. Additionally, the credits of the degrees earned from South America University can be easily transferred to other universities, both traditional and online. Thanks to the accreditation by the well-known accreditation agencies, South America students are now more acknowledged and recognized and readily hired by the world's most reputed private, national, and multinational organizations ..."

    ...yawn...

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    I'm sure I'm being naive, but if all the Axact guys were arrested, who's running all these bogus entities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    I'm sure I'm being naive, but if all the Axact guys were arrested, who's running all these bogus entities?
    According to some, Axact had it’s origins in P.E.C.H.S., Pakistan Employees Cooperative Housing Society, a neighbourhood in Jamshed Town, Karachi. I think that’s a valid assumption: as far as some of the earliest domains were concerned, registration was made usually made out to individuals with addresses in P.E.C.H.S. It’s entirely possible that Axact maintained a presence in P.E.C.H.S.

    It could also be the case that former Axact employees have set up shop elsewhere, for instance in Dubai where Pakistanis are the second largest ethnic group. Perhaps it didn’t even require too much effort: Axact degrees were often shipped from Dubai so the infrastructure was probably already in place.

    It’s interesting that southamericauniversity dot com is registered to someone in Nigeria. It could mean that business-minded Nigerians have picked up what’s left of Axact but I think – although I don’t have any evidence – that there may have been, let’s say “academic exchange” between Nigeria and Pakistan for quite a while now.

    @Johann

    ACHE was an unrecognized accrediting agency. It’s gone now, but if memory serves me right, it used to accredit Brain Wells University – not a UK university, at the time on the .ws (Western Samoa) top-level domain. As far as I can remember, ACHE shared both phone and fax with a hotel in Wallis & Futuna.
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