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    New medical school wins accreditation

    The first for-profit medical school created from scratch to become accredited.

    California Northstate University wins accreditation to launch medical school in Elk Grove - Sacramento Business Journal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    I think they're fluffing. Rocky Vista is for-profit and beat them to it, but maybe they are differentiating between MD and DO? I looked it up, Rocky Vista got it in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookderosa View Post
    I think they're fluffing. Rocky Vista is for-profit and beat them to it, but maybe they are differentiating between MD and DO? I looked it up, Rocky Vista got it in 2012.
    . . . but it has to be true . . . I read it on the internet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    . . . but it has to be true . . . I read it on the internet!
    I think they mean "MD" not "physician" (because that would include DOs too). Snobs.
    In any event, I think this is a great spot for an emoticon. Cheers Kiz
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookderosa View Post
    I think they mean "MD" not "physician" (because that would include DOs too). Snobs.
    In any event, I think this is a great spot for an emoticon. Cheers Kiz
    Different states treat DOs differently. In New York, both MDs and DOs receive the same license and are overseen by the same medical board. There is literally no legal distinction between an MD and a DO. In fact, the New York Board of Regents is authorized to award an MD to individuals who earned non-MD medical degrees. The program, I believe, was intended mainly for graduates of British system universities who earned a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery. I bring this up because, last year, I went to a specialist whose post-nominals were "D.O., M.D." because he had the NYS Regents award him an MD on the basis of completing his D.O. I asked him about it and he said that he did it because he worked overseas a lot and the D.O. isn't as widely accepted in some countries. So the M.D. allowed him more flexibility.

    But in other states D.O.'s are regulated by a separate board and issued a separate license from M.D.'s. States like Arizona separate D.O.'s and M.D.'s into "buckets" of "Osteopathic Physician" and "Physician," respectively. While functionally the same I imagine this is a throw back to a time when D.O.'s had a status similar to Chiropractors. So it may very well be snobbery but I think some of it is simply institutional norms which evolved (or didn't) over time.

    That said, I think my position on "for-profit" education is well known. It isn't really a safe time to be earning a degree from such a school, in my opinion. Dick Durbin tried to dig his fangs into Ross University with nonsensical legislation (that would have done nothing to harm Ross in the long run). They likely escaped his grasp, in part, because they are a foreign school. But guys like that are going to wait for the tiniest of slip-ups to try to discredit the institution and tarnish the reputations of its alumni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    Different states treat DOs differently. In New York, both MDs and DOs receive the same license and are overseen by the same medical board. There is literally no legal distinction between an MD and a DO. In fact, the New York Board of Regents is authorized to award an MD to individuals who earned non-MD medical degrees. The program, I believe, was intended mainly for graduates of British system universities who earned a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery. I bring this up because, last year, I went to a specialist whose post-nominals were "D.O., M.D." because he had the NYS Regents award him an MD on the basis of completing his D.O. I asked him about it and he said that he did it because he worked overseas a lot and the D.O. isn't as widely accepted in some countries. So the M.D. allowed him more flexibility.

    But in other states D.O.'s are regulated by a separate board and issued a separate license from M.D.'s. States like Arizona separate D.O.'s and M.D.'s into "buckets" of "Osteopathic Physician" and "Physician," respectively. While functionally the same I imagine this is a throw back to a time when D.O.'s had a status similar to Chiropractors. So it may very well be snobbery but I think some of it is simply institutional norms which evolved (or didn't) over time.

    That said, I think my position on "for-profit" education is well known. It isn't really a safe time to be earning a degree from such a school, in my opinion. Dick Durbin tried to dig his fangs into Ross University with nonsensical legislation (that would have done nothing to harm Ross in the long run). They likely escaped his grasp, in part, because they are a foreign school. But guys like that are going to wait for the tiniest of slip-ups to try to discredit the institution and tarnish the reputations of its alumni.

    In short, haters gonna hate.
    Well explained, thank you.
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