American Liberty University

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  1. Jasmumma

    Jasmumma New Member

    some one email me a degree for verification and authentication Please help me to figure out about this Degree of MBA
    This Degree of MBA issued by American Liberty University London UK campus. Is any one help me is this a valid authentic Degree?
     
  2. Mohammed

    Mohammed New Member

    The answer is No!
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Here is an old thread on this school. It seems to have had many campus locations.

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/27024-american-liberty-university-2.html

    Its current website links to its BPPE approval from this page:

    American Liberty University - ALU Credentials

    Here's the BPPE link. https://app.dca.ca.gov/bppe/view-school.asp?schlcode=3014471

    So - it appears the school has (or at least it did yesterday) California BPPE approval to confer an MBA. I'm positive the London "campus" would not be able to confer a UK degree.

    Johann
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    What I hope has happened here is that the UK branch, realizing that it does not have UK degree-granting authority, has had the California mother-school confer an unaccredited-but-legal California degree to their London-based grad. That would keep them out of hot water under the Higher Education Act (1988) that forbids granting of UK degrees without proper authority.

    I don't think it's right for either grantor or recipient to indicate it's a UK degree.

    If it's American - it appears to be a legal, but unaccredited degree.
    If it appears to be anything else - all bets are off.

    Johann
     
  5. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Uh Uh!!!!!!
     
  6. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    As I understand it, American Liberty University is now accredited by ASIC, Accreditation Services for International Schools, Colleges and Universities, UK. A "Premier Institution", according to ASIC's classification.
     
  7. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    ASIC also came up during the discussion about the University of Atlanta. I think part of the reason why the discussion can be so contentious is that people conflate "reputable accreditor" with "degree granting authorization." ASIC appears, by all accounts, to be a reputable organization. That is, they aren't an "accreditation mill" that keeps appearing on the websites of known diploma mills. However, that doesn't mean ASIC's accreditation actually means anything.

    Take, for example, PMI's Global Accreditation. PMI is not recognized by CHEA or USDOE as an accreditor (though they are trying). But PMI is certainly reputable. Their PMP credential is widely accepted in a number of industries. Despite not being recognized by USDOE or CHEA, a number of respectable universities boast this accreditation for some of their project management programs (Boston University and Cornell, for example). However, if an institution's sole accreditation was through PMI, it wouldn't make their degrees any more legitimate. Yes, PMI is respectable. But PMI doesn't have the authority to extend institutional accreditation to schools.

    Another example would be ACBSP.In another thread there is talk about Horizons University which has ACBSP accreditation. That's great. It should tell us that their business programs are most likely not as simple as writing them a check and them mailing you a degree. However, ACBSP is a programmatic accreditor. If Horizons lacks institutional accreditation (or approval or however they handle this in France) it doesn't legitimize degrees being awarded without proper authority.

    As an aside, I'm almost always suspicious of schools with "American" or some U.S. locale in their name (like "University of Atlanta") who suddenly claim to be accredited by foreign bodies. It doesn't necessarily mean that the school is sketchy. But it makes the school sound very sketchy.

    I don't know the full scope of how UK universities receive their approval. But honestly, if it didn't receive a royal charter or authorization to award degrees by an act of Parliament, I would probably stay clear of it. That doesn't mean ASIC is bad. It doesn't mean they are scammers. It just acknowledges that the government of the UK has not granted ASIC the same level of responsibility that the USDOE has extended to the myriad accreditors in the U.S.
     

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