Collegium Augustinianum

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  1. BoBoMisiu

    BoBoMisiu New Member

  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I would dare to guess that if it doesn't state that it's accredited then it is not.
     
  3. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Here is a picture of the Collegium Augustinianum Orlando campus.

    Here is a picture of the DaVinci Rent-an-Office facility in Orlando.

    Here is the official list of accredited US schools, as published by the US Dept. of Education. Doesn't seem to include "Collegium Augustinianum".
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, you kind of have to hand it to them for using an accurate picture, though.

    A license to operate in Florida isn't hard to get. And I believe they have an even easier exemption process for religious institutions.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No - they're not accredited. What a self-laudatory site, with its talk of European academic traditions, research degrees, eminent visiting scholars... oh, my! Perhaps the bafflegab is to make us think the school is miles above anything as mundane as accreditation.

    This school points out that its degrees are recognized by the Graduate Theological Foundation. I don't doubt it. Both are unaccredited and appear similarly pretentious. Takes one to recognize one, I guess.

    We have threads on Graduate Theological Foundation going back a long way. I note Dr. Steve Levicoff made mention of GTF in his book, "Name it and Frame it" (1994). Here's a sample thread. Collegium Augustinium and GTS - two of a kind, as I see it.

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/18905-once-all-graduate-theological-foundation.html

    I've heard the diplomas look nice, though. :smile:

    Johann
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If one studies hard, may one graduate magna fraude?
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Good one, Rich. I'd say yes, definitely. However, I think correct Latin would be magno cum dolo - with great fraud or deceit. I like your version better. :smile: Almost makes me wish I hadn't gone to school for Latin -- but I know so little else.

    Avec grande fraude should work in French, though. I'll ask the folks at Ecole Supérieure Robert de Sorbon sometime. They'd know! :smile:

    Johann
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    PS - For Rich. IIRC Sheila, Our Lady of MIGS has a de Sorbon uh-Doctorate. I think she might also have another from UNEM in Costa Rica. Yep - a Doctorado en Educacion. Oh my...

    Johann
     
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  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I didn't know about her connection to Empresarial. Makes sense, since it was the forerunner of MIGS and used the same rent-a-degree-authority process.
     
  10. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    What the hell is a Ph.B? I've never seen a bachelor of philosophy listed this way.:eek5:

    I can definitely see this conversation taking place.

    Employer: So I see you have a doctorate in philosophy?

    Me: no I don't.

    Employer: hmm. Your vita lists a Ph.D. degree, is that a mistake?

    Me: nope, just a small typo, I keep messing with the D and the B, is so confusing really. However, I do have a Ph.B.

    Employer: What in the world is a Ph.B? :eek5:

    Me: (proudly) is a bachelor of philosophy.

    Employer: hmm, we'll get back to you.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    For UNEM, I'd call it "invent-a-degree," rather than "rent-a-degree." IIRC, the school is authorized to offer three specific degrees (two bachelors and a master) in Costa Rica and precisely NONE outside Costa Rica.

    Not only does Sheila list the UNEM doctorado on her web-page, but she's adjunct faculty at UNEM, according to this site:

    Sheila Danzig | Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica - Academia.edu

    Johann
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think it's a legit way -- but I'll agree it's unusual - at least in the U.S.

    Philosophiae baccalaureus or something like that, I guess. "Stupid Latin word-order tricks" as David Letterman might phrase it. I've seen legit Canadian Pharmacy degrees back-to-front like this, too. And of course the LL.B. law degree follows the same format. We're no strangers to doing things backwards, in Canada. :smile:

    Yes - this Wiki with a history of the Bachelor of Philosophy degree lists Ph. B. as one of the proper abbreviations. Surprise, surprise!

    Bachelor of Philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Johann
     
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  13. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    Oops, I take back my previous comment. Apparently Ph.B is used as a bachelor designator. I didn't know. I bet is not that common.
     
  14. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    In the US, the undergraduate degree is typically named as the "Bachelor of X", abbreviated as "B.X." But some schools -- notably Harvard -- use the reverse order:

    Some other schools that issue A.B. degrees (as opposed to B.A. degrees) include Bryn Mawr, Mt. Holyoke, Princeton, and Dartmouth. There are probably others. I understand that in practice, graduates of such schools often prefer to refer to their degree a B.A., because the A.B. is unfamiliar to many people and can be confused with an associate's degree.

    In theory, I suppose a school that offered a "Bachelor's of Philosophy" degree could justify calling it a "Ph.B". But in practice, the potential for confusion with the "Ph.D." is obvious, and so I would be surprised if any accredited US school currently does this.
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Similarly, D. Phil. and Ph.D. are both legitimate academic titles. And, like the Ph. B., I doubt you'll see many D. Phil. degrees conferred by an accredited school this side of the pond.

    BTW - the Ph.D. is another instance of backwards Latin word order - Philosophiae Doctor. whereas the D. Phil. abbreviation works fine in English. MD - Medicinae Doctor - same thing but that is used in the US. Confused yet? :smile:

    Ph.D., D. Phil ...and then, there's Dr. Phil. --- :smile:

    Johann, Nihili Doctor (Doctor of Nothing). I don't use the N.D. - I'm not a Naturopathic doc. :smile:
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And how's this for more confusion - Doctor of Philology?

    Usually, in North America, a doctoral degree in philology is a Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy) in Philology. Not so, everywhere. In other lands, there exists a specific Doctor of Philology degree, e.g. the ones earned by the scholars listed on this Ukrainian page.

    Leading Scholars – Shevchenko Institute of Literature of the NAS of Ukraine

    Johann
     
  17. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    ...........................:haha:
     
  18. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    K
    Thanks for the info, and you are right. I now have a headache. :grumble::shocked:
     
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Perhaps I should use the term favoured by a long-time degree-mill expert. He used it for those claiming "doctorates" from spooflicate sources. It was nDr. (Non-Doctor). It certainly lessened the confusion and shone the light on deserving people...

    Perhaps I can usurp it, just for today - but only to show I lack both real and phony doctorates. :smile:

    nDr. Johann
     
  20. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    From time I think of the fake doctor the FBI once busted, whose business card said, "John Smith, BA, MD" -- and what that meant was that he had a Bachelor's degree from the University of Maryland.
     

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