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    susannerothschild is offline Registered User
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    European University Accreditations and Rankings?

    Hi everyone,

    I would like to join a MBA in International Marketing and several people have told me about European University.

    I'm fortunate to have an establishment next to me (Munich), but I would like to have your opinion on their accreditation.

    I heard they were well rated on a European level and were known for the high quality of their education .

    Thanks

    Suzanne

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    Great question, wish I could get an answer too.
    One of my best friend got his bachelor diploma in European University Geneva and told me a really enjoyed it as well as he got to have interesting classes with nice teachers but I wish I could double check having somebody else's feedback,
    Thanks in advance

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    Hi Ambrosia,
    Thank you. What type of bachelor's degree he obtained?
    Can he give me some advices?

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    European University accredited

    Hi Susanne,

    Yes, European University is accredited - in fact they have got quite fair accreditations: the ACBSP accreditation for one, and IACBE for the business programs. They also have the CEEMAN International Quality accreditation ( European University Wikipedia )

    Be careful, i know there have been quite a few discussions and debates about European University accreditations around. Keep in mind EU is a private school / private university, therefore can not have the public schools accreditation statuses. This is valid for example in Switzerland where no other school than a public swiss school can get a state accreditation. EU's business programs are globally recognized, that is clear from the professional opportunities offered.

    Also, i know the change in management has helped immensely in the quality of the EU tuition. Dirk Craen is heading EU with a very pragmatic vision and quite a serious network.

    I have had the opportunity to teach there and would recommend EU as much as i would recommend Webster University for example.

    Not sure though of their actual development and campuses. I know they are now in Barcelona (which is a great campus), Switzerland (the Geneva region) and i think still in Munich although i have never visited that campus (check European University Accreditation )

    Hope this helps,
    -Cal

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    Is European University Accredited??

    The search function can be useful

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    Yup i read that, but that thread is old, obsolete and subject to quite a lot of controversies and attacks which from my understanding come from previous management and historical issues.

    Objectively, I have research the European University accreditations and have found them positive with ACBSP and IACBE (ACBSP and IACBE are both recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation). European University also has IQA (CEEMAN) accreditation.

    Since Dirk Crean has taken over the school, he has closed the problematic campuses (belgium i think?) and opened others. I have taken a business program at Geneva's campus and found it very good - but that is only my view. I know I have visited the Barcelona and the Munich campus ( - but have never seen new the executive business campus near Montreux) and they are all top notch, at the level of Webster university in Geneva probably.

    One thing is for sure, big names are holding degrees from European University, and the industry recognizes them (very) well. Mark Hayek, Blancpain's CEO, André Dosé former CEO of Swiss International, Adolf Ogi former Swiss President are holders of EU's degrees and I heard of quite a few other international names in banking, sports, politics and more.

    But anyway, the courses you attend, same as a diploma, are only what you make of them ;)

    If you want any more specific detail, I'd be happy to advise, I sincerely enjoyed my time at EU.
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    ! Disclosure : I have attended a EU business program.

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    Hello Susanne, if I’m not wrong he did a Bachelor in communications , PR and graduated in 2010 or 2011. (not sure exactly...)
    He’s always said good about his studies so it’s a good sign.

    I would like to sign up for an MBA in international Entrepreneuship, leaderships, international business , somewhere along those lines in Geneva or Montreux if possible and have decided to meet with someone from European University directly to get all the info I need and see the campus…

    Stef, tks for the info, it’s always great to have the advice of someone that’s been there! so far so good

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    Hey, I’m not able to help on the accreditations of European University. However, based on the QS World University Rankings, European University is ranked 33rd among the "top MBA global 200 Schools Report" for 2013 / 2014:
    Europe - TopMBA Global 200 Business Schools Report 2013/2014 | QS TopMBA.com
    Thought this could be helpful.
    Best

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    Thank you for all the precious info Cal, Bobby Jim and Stef, I’ll have a look at the different links you sent over and see what I can get out of them.

    Thanks again,
    Susanne

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    Hello, I live in Switzerland and have been thinking of joining an MBA program in the area. I was wondering if any of you were able to advise me on which university to pick?
    I’ve been working for nearly 4 years in marketing in firms such as JTI and P&G and wish to further my professional career in major WW companies.

    I heard IMD’s MBA ranks number 1 in the world which is clearly a plus. However it seems they are very « finance » oriented is that correct ?

    Webster has the advantge of offering a good Marketing / Business MBA program, plus they are accredited in the USA, which can only be beneficial if I wish to integrate an American company in the future.

    Also, I’ve heard a lot about European University, and especially the quality of their education . They have a few accreditations but most of all, they seem to have excpetional guestspeakers and quit a bit of CEO’s come out of this school.

    I’ve only just started looking into this so still need to push my research. Of course, any other suggestion is welcome.

    Thank you in advance for your help,
    A.

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    Keep in mind EU is a private school / private university, therefore can not have the public schools accreditation statuses. This is valid for example in Switzerland where no other school than a public swiss school can get a state accreditation.
    Historically, this may have been true. But private schools in Switzerland are now eligible for accreditation through the Swiss University Conference, which is jointly organized by the cantonal and federal governments. For example, Franklin College Switzerland (a small private liberal arts college in Lugano) has both US regional accreditation and Swiss University Conference accreditation:

    Franklin enjoys the most prestigious accreditation possible in both the United States and Switzerland, the only institution in the world to do so ... The Swiss University Conference granted Swiss university accreditation to all major programs of study leading to the Franklin College Bachelor Arts degree in 2005 and in April 2013 fully accredited the institution as a degree-granting university institution. This accreditation applies to all current and future programs and degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalDog View Post
    But private schools in Switzerland are now eligible for accreditation through the Swiss University Conference, which is jointly organized by the cantonal and federal governments.
    Yes, although for accreditation they require that an institution "employs at least the equivalent of 100 full-time positions;
    of which at least one-third are permanently employed professors" and that its "professors devote an average of at least 30 percent of their working time to research."

    Such requirements aren't assurances of academic quality or financial stability; they're artificial barriers to entry, and high ones at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    Such requirements aren't assurances of academic quality or financial stability; they're artificial barriers to entry, and high ones at that.
    And pretty much insurmountable for a distance school. That's why they all operate under Cantonal approval. The perceived value of such degrees varies a LOT from school to school.. At the top of the pile, there's IMD business school, Switzerland . An MBA from here has the "triple crown" of program accreditation - EQUIS AMBA and AACSB. I think It costs around $88K - but the average starting salary was something like $130K a couple of years back.

    Now Dr. Craen and his school have been both lauded and vilified in this forum. A not-uncommon occurrence. I'm surprised at the remark that things have changed so much for the better "since he took over." I thought Dr. Craen had been in charge for many years - I believe at least two of his adult children have positions with the School - one son has been aboard for a few years, now IIRC. And no - I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with that -- just that Dr. Dirk Craen has been in charge for a good long time, AFAIK.

    If I won't get into too much trouble from the school's defenders, I'd like to ask an old, unanswered question once again. Does anyone know which University awarded Dr. Craen his doctorate?

    Someone else asked that some years back; I tried, but couldn't find the answer. That's why I'm interested...

    Johann
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    Yes, although for accreditation they require that an institution "employs at least the equivalent of 100 full-time positions;
    of which at least one-third are permanently employed professors" and that its "professors devote an average of at least 30 percent of their working time to research."

    Such requirements aren't assurances of academic quality or financial stability; they're artificial barriers to entry, and high ones at that.
    Franklin College Switzerland is a small school, with a total enrollment of only 419 students. Not surprisingly, Franklin only has 51 faculty -- and 26 of them are part-time. So they clearly flunk the SUC's "100 full-time professor" criterion.

    Yet Franklin doesn't seem to be bothered by this "artificial barrier to entry" -- on the contrary, Franklin boasts full institutional accreditation from SUC. How is this possible? Take another look at the SUC rules. The "100 full-time professors" rule apply to institutions seeking accreditation as a "university". But it is also possible for a degree-granting school to be accredited as an "academic institution", and in this case the rules are much looser.

    An "academic institution" needs "at least the equivalent of two full-time permanently employed professors per programme at the institution." And it can still grant bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees. Franklin -- which does not advertise itself as a "university" -- is presumably accredited under this route.

    European University is SUC-accreditable -- they just aren't SUC-accreditable with the word "University" in their name. But that's not an insurmountable barrier to entry. For example, they could be a "College" (like Franklin) or an "Institute" (like IMD).
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    Incidentally, I'm impressed that European University is now marketing itself as "triple-accredited":

    About European University

    Established in 1973, European University (EU) is a triple-accredited, multicampus, international business school.
    In the rest of the international business school community, "triple accreditation" means AACSB, AMBA, and EQUIS.

    At European University, "triple accreditation" apparently means ACBSP, IACBE, and IQA-CEEMAN.
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    Franklin -- which does not advertise itself as a "university" -- is presumably accredited under this route.
    It is interesting to note that Franklin's regional accreditation, in the US, is under the name of "Franklin University Switzerland".
    However, Franklin calls itself a "College" in Switzerland.

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