Enrolled in Univeristy of phoneix and wish to xfer out

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  1. AeonicOne

    AeonicOne New Member

    Okay about a year after my grad out of high school I finally decided to go college looking, at the time I still had no clue what the hell I was getting into with colleges etc. and I threw darts online and it landed on UoP. I have been enrolled for over a year and half with a GPA of 2.5-3.0 (after the whole renovation thing they had going on, I was moved from campus to an online program, and it turned stupid after that)

    I really do regret (101%) joining up at UoP, excess reviews searching has come up with UoP having a bad reputation. and Honestly the whole teamwork thing they have going on is a little ridiculous. (I understand it) and how their degrees are not respected (various sources, as well as a family member who has graduated from LSU)

    My original college I wanted to get enrolled in was UL (University of Louisiana). However back in my high school days I heard few rumors of foreign language and ACT's were needed. To be honest the thought of all that greatly discouraged me from trying out to get accepted into UL

    Sadly for me I do not have a foreign Language nor did I take the ACT in high school (I'm regretting this right now)

    But after I guess a "breakdown" I had a chat with my cousin who was very supportive with helping me, and said the only thing slowing me down was my self. He also mentioned that there is also transferring between colleges and it caught my interest. So I sent UL an email, and was told I needed my current trans script from the UoP and immunization forms. The surprise that came to mind when I got that email.

    First Question: Will the credits I Have (36) transfer over (I understand if I will not get a full 36)
    Second Question: How do I go about getting my transcript from UoP, do I just contact an adviser and tell them I wanna transfer out? (they are gonna do everything to keep me there I take it?)

    if UL does tell me I need a Foreign Language, Ill just transfer to an CC and get one, then retry to UL (so no harm there, nor with taken the ACT)

    Honestly, I just want to get out this school.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    You have acquired a great deal of insight, the vast majority of which was available before enrollment.

    Your credits come from a regionally accredited school and are, thus, transferable to other accredited schools.

    In order to transfer the credits, they'll need to fit whatever new degree you decide to pursue.

    In order to transfer the credits, you'll need to have UoP issue a transcript to the gaining school.

    In order to have the transcript issued, you'll need to be paid-up with UoP. This can be tricky, so now is the time to ask.

    You do not need to do anything with UoP, except ensure you are no longer enrolled in any courses and are not incurring any further financial obligation. There is no "getting out." You are already out, as long as you paid-up and are not enrolled.

    You should also consider completing your undergraduate education at UoP. The shortcomings you perceive are not likely to be as real as you think.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Good for you for taking action. You actually may want to start at your local community college. They're used to dealing with students who have various levels of preparation, they're your least expensive option, and when the time comes their credits should transfer easily, especially to nearby four year schools.

    They may be able to offer you good advice on how to get away from Phoenix. Basically, all you should need is to get Phoenix to send an official transcript to your next school. But you're right, they may try to screw you with fine print on the way out.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I couldn't disagree more. Phoenix is way, way too expensive, which would saddle AeonicOne with thousands and thousands of dollars in unnecessary debt. His/her local public four year school is almost certainly half the cost or less and can't possibly be less well regarded.

    Besides, AeonicOne has already complained about the quality of education. Why would anyone stay at a school under those circumstances?
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I don't see anymore advise to transfer to big three, the EC, TESC, COSC etc.
    Wander why not do that?

    Get degree from one of them?

    Are they now also to expansive?
     
  6. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I recommend tesc. Pm me and I'll give anyone who is confused my personal phone number so that I can help explain the process. I can do it through email as well. I have two bachelor's degrees from tesc and a MBA from ncu and I am willing to help. You should be able to transfer all of your credits.
     
  7. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    One of the Big 3 is certainly an option, depends on how he wishes to finish his degree. The Big three really shine at accepting non traditional credit like credit by exam. They are all potentially quick, potentially inexpensive, particularly as compared to UofP.

    You only have 30 some odd credits at UofP...DO NOT STAY THERE, you have 30 more to get an AA/AS and 90 more for a bachelors...YOUR RIGHT TO GET OUT NOW!

    Nothing wrong with completing an AA/AS at a CC then transferring that to UofL if you like...just takes planning. With the internet you can discover costs, requirements, and build a plan without ever leaving home. As mentioned above UofP is regionally accredited so most if not all of your credits will transfer (you will have to be square with UofP for them to send your transcript). Changing colleges isn't a big deal...I used to do it a lot! :)

    It might help to know what sort of degree your looking for, what you hope to accomplish with it. Are you planning to use federal aid? whats your time line for completion?

    Don't get too caught up in the prestige game nothing wrong with U of Louisiana, but there are thousands of other equally great choices out there that all trump UofP.
     
  8. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Great offer from a guy who knows how to do it...I'll offer the same deal if you want to consider Charter Oak, Both great choices...you gotta do some research on your options and the schools first though. :)
     
  9. Delta

    Delta Active Member


    I would look at Clovis Community College's Associate of General Studies! The price is right, it is distance learning and they accept your accredited credits. Then you can transfer to a four year school. However, you appear to be young 20 years old or so? I would also consider attending a Brick and Mortar school. I certainly enjoyed the experience!
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    You can disagree all you want. I'm speaking from first-hand experience, both as a scholar in this field and as someone who worked for UoP.

    If this was just a transaction--move credits here or there--then fine. But it isn't. Pursuing a UoP degree is unique. Successful students become acculturated; they get good at the UoP process. While the OP did complain about the team learning element, that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a good fit. He/she has hardly had time to make an insightful decision regarding culture and fit.

    Unlike you, I didn't advise the OP to stay or to leave. I just made the suggestion that to consider remaining might be something to contemplate. It's a complicated situation that would benefit from reflection, not hard-over, all-or-nothing answers. It just isn't that simple.

    I'm a pretty harsh critic of UoP, which you know. Maybe, just maybe, I was suggesting that option with some serious consideration behind it. You know, maybe.
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I strongly recommend leaving UoP. With only 36 credits, I don't see any advantage to staying. When I didn't know much about college or online education, I filled out one of those forms to be contacted by UoP. They called me and signed me up with Axia which was under Western International University at the time. WIU and UoP are owned by the same company. Let's just say that I didn't feel like I was learning anything and my student loan debt was adding up fast. Most of my student loan debt is from two colleges: WIU and Colorado Technical University.

    Fortunately, I went through the hassle of enrolling in online classes at the local community colleges, but it was worth it. I saved a lot of money and all of my credits transferred to Thomas Edison State College. I saved even more money by testing out of the rest of my credits. Any of the Big 3 (Charter Oak, Excelsior, and TESC) will be better than UoP, but there are plenty of other options. What is your major and do you want to stay with the same major?
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    After 36 credits I'd think that anyone would know whether a school is a good fit or not. And even poor fit weren't an issue, we're talking about tens of thousands of dollars in difference. I respect that we disagree, but I'll stand by what I said.
     
  13. AeonicOne

    AeonicOne New Member

    Can you please clarify on:

    You do not need to do anything with UoP, except ensure you are no longer enrolled in any courses and are not incurring any further financial obligation. There is no "getting out." You are already out, as long as you paid-up and are not enrolled.

    if I'm understanding this right, right now all my courses are covered by FA (I do not own any money for courses right now) and I'm still enrolled atm there (so do I need to like, request an official drop from the university or something?)
     
  14. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    You need to be very careful about timing this process exactly right.

    Unless they have changed the way they administer financial aid since early 2010 (when I left my position as a financial services manager), then you're going to need to know a few things:

    1) Where are you in your disbursement period? For undergrads taking one class at a time, you will typically have two disbursement periods of 12 hours (4 classes) each. This will total 24 credits over 40 weeks. If you are overlapping classes, things could be a bit more complex.

    2) Once you know where you are in your disbursement period, you will be able to discern where you fall on the Return-of-Title-IV calculation. In order to "earn" your financial aid without being subject to any recalculation/returning of funds, you will need to complete over 60% of a term. The way this is calculated, however, depends on the way the school administers aid. Unless something has changed, UOP uses a borrower-based system of administering financial aid, which means that the school doesn't have set "terms" with beginning and ending dates, which are normally used to determine FA eligibility. I recommend being very conservative with this estimate. If you have 4 classes in your disbursement period, you are safest to complete at least 3 of the 4 classes with a passing grade (thereby completing 75% of your disbursement period). Obviously, if you pass all of the classes, you will complete 100% of the disbursement period.

    3) You will need to talk to your finance advisor about this. Do not assume that you will be "ok" because financial aid has covered all of your courses. Withdrawing at the wrong time could trigger a Return of Title IV calculation, which could result in a balance on your account. Having a balance on your account will put a hold on your transcripts, which will ruin your plans to transfer. Many variables are in play, so verify with your advisor.
     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't know that we necessarily disagree. I'm just not interested in giving such concrete, strident advice as if there weren't other considerations.

    Personally, I don't know why anyone just starting out in college would choose a school like UoP. Actually, I do. They're sold on it as a packaged solution. But the better path would be to follow a lot of the advice on this board--including yours--and take public and other cheaper options. But once on the path, it's more complicated than just jumping ship. Sure, that might be the right solution. I'm just suggesting that there might be reasons to stay. In balance, I wouldn't--especially with what I know about it. But these things are seldom as black-and-white as often portrayed here.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    during the years I knew many adults who graduated from UoP who are happy with the education and the degree utility.

    I also have a friend who didn't like UoP and he was also two yeas in to it with some 30 credit per year. Wile he used Tuition Assistance from his employer he ended up transferring to Capella. A year into Capella he wasn't happy there to.

    Finally he applied to Excelsior College and in a year earned bachelors degree.
    His words " I wish I knew about Excelsior years ego:
    He rerecords EC.
     
  17. AeonicOne

    AeonicOne New Member

    Luck may yet be on my side, My finance adviser called me yesterday, saying it was time to redo the FA, as of right now im enrolled in one class. so would now be a good time to try and get out?
     
  18. AeonicOne

    AeonicOne New Member

    bump (sorry, I really need info on this)
     
  19. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    The way to get out is to stop taking courses. If you're enrolled in one course, you're not out. Finish the course (unless you're enrolled in advance for a course that starts in later on and you can withdraw now without penalty). To end things with UOPHX, don't enroll in another. I'm not sure what you're asking beyond this. What did you think about the options with other schools that we suggested upthread?
     
  20. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    You might! You might not. It depends entirely on the school you take them to and the requirements for the degree program you take them too.

    To 'transfer out,' (a) stop taking courses from Phoenix and (b) request your transcript from the Office of Admissions and Records Support Center to send on to the next school you apply to; they'll ask for this and tell you where to send it when you apply. You don't have to do (a) before (b); you can do (b) today.
     

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