ACCET - The Accrediting Council for Continuing Education & Training ?

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The Accrediting Council for Continuing Education & Training

    I been asked by a parent of my older sons friend about the accreditation of a college he is attending. Day and evening classes not DL.

    The campus of that college is accredited by ACCET.

    ACCET - Accrediting Council for Continuing Education and Training

    The essential purpose of the accreditation process is to provide a professional judgment as to the quality of the educational institution and program(s) offered.

    They appear to me as providing Institutional Accreditation.

    I told the parent that in first glance its a Nationally Recognized Accreditor.
    That the credit transfer can be a challenge when he applies for further education in RA college.
    Also among employers there can be discrimination. On the positive it is a recognized Accrediting Council.

    What standing this accrediting council has?
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They're NA, one of the ones we don't talk about much because they're limited to schools offering Associate degrees.
     
  3. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    In fact, many (perhaps most) ACCET schools don't offer degrees at all, and don't have the word"college" or "university" in their names. They offer career and vocational training, sometimes with certificates.

    ACCET accreditation seems completely legit, but it may have significant limitations. For example, ACCET accredits schools that teach things like bartending, truck driving, massage, and horseshoeing. The education that such schools offer may be perfectly good, but realistically it may not transfer into a conventional 4-year bachelor's degree program, even with ACCET's "seal of approval".
     
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Concur with CalDog. The associate's is a funny thing, and is often awarded as a vocational credential, which is extremely limited in terms of transfer credits, whether we're talking about ACCET or RA.
     
  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I had no idea that ACCET accredited degree programs.
     
  6. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    ACCET's scope, as recognized by USDoE:

    So "occupational associate degrees" only. This may change in the future, due to credential inflation. Who knows, maybe someday there will be ACCET-accredited truck driving schools issuing the Master's in Vehicular Guidance Technology.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Plenty of people who have earned associate degrees (including those who post here) don't think of their accomplishments as "funny things," Rich. I think that's a rather callous, lofty and hurtful turn of phrase.

    Here's an older post on the subject by Bill Dayson -- it makes 'way more sense to me than your sniping does:

    Get the whole 5-page thread here: http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/8103-associate-degree-useless.html

    Love that line of Bill's, "I think you just happened on an arrogant degree snob." :smile:

    Johann
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the feedback, "Johann."
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Well, how about Computer Technology Associate Degree? I can see someone with AS degree in IT, CT and certifications working in IT and with time may want to continue their education.
    Pharmacy Technicians may want some day go further to.

    I also see schools with multiple accreditation such as UEI College.

    UEI is accredited. UEI is accredited by ACCET*. UEI – Bakersfield, Gardena, Fresno and Riverside are accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges (ACCSC)**. UEI – Santa Cruz is accredited by the Accrediting Bureau of Health Education Schools (ABHES)***. UEI is approved to train veterans by the state approving agency. Eligible students may apply to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs for determination of benefits. www.vabenefits.vba.va.gov

    Areas of Study:
    Automotive Technician
    Business Management Degree
    Business Office Administration
    Computer Systems Technician
    Criminal Justice / Criminal Security Administration
    Dental Assistant
    Emergency Medical Technician
    Medical Assistant
    Medical Billing &
    Insurance Coding
    Pharmacy Technician
    Paramedic
    Vocational Nursing

    I would say that graduates from this college many may want to continue their education and find it hard to transfer credit to RA schools.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I see it as foundation credential and an exit point from college or university.

    In not so distant past a registered nurse got the RA and Associates. Today many continue to BSN.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It can also be a transfer point to a university's bachelor's program, if the associate's program is academic, not vocational. I would suspect, although I don't think it's been directly measured, that vo-tech associate's degrees from ACCET-accredited schools would be even harder to transfer to bachelor's programs.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I would encourage students of ACCET, DETC and ACCSC by completion of each class to take EC exams or similar in classes that match to the exams, wile the info is fresh in their mind.

    Just a thought.
     
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  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't see a fine line between that which is vocational and that which is academic. Studying to work with IT is academic, but studying to be an electrician is vocational? Anyway, for those who look around, I expect even Associate degrees that are heavy in coursework for aspiring tradespeople can transfer into at least a few electives-heavy Bachelor's degrees.
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It's the community colleges themselves that make this distinction, where appropriate. Also, as I recall, at least one RA (SACS) does or did, too. Community College of the Air Force was first accredited by SACS as a vocational school before getting accreditation as an academic one--which really improved CCAF's ability to get its credits transferred and to create articulation agreements with schools to give CCAF graduates automatic placement in those schools' bachelor's programs.
     

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