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    Quote Originally Posted by msganti View Post
    The point is, this institution is trying to abuse the "Scientific Societies Act". AFAIK, the act depicted that scientific societies can run educational programs (like certificates and diplomas, but NOT degrees) purely for educational purposes and professional advancement. ...

    The institution in question is definitely using it's political power and loopholes in the system...
    It certainly is! And the "Literary and Scientific Societies Act" it is abusing is dated 1854! Perhaps it's time for a revision - hopefully one less amenable to abuse!

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    Indian Board of Alternative Medicine is legit

    I can attest that it is a fine school with a fine curriculum which is Govt. approved. The Govt. of India does offer attestation of their programs as being authentic. Legally, alternative medicine is an exempt profession in India. Homeopathy and Ayurveda are not considered alternaative but rather traditional Indian medicine and allopathy being considered Western.

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    They offer distance learning as well as clinical training (minimum 7 days per month) in general Western physical examination and lab interpretation as well as practical training in special alternative therapies such as acupunture, chiropractic, herbalism, Traditional Chinese medicine, naturopathy.

    Graduates are permitted to practice these anywhere in India.
    RMP (AM) is registered medical practitioner alternative medicine and is not to be confused with Rural Medical Practitioner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen2468 View Post
    I can attest that it is a fine school with a fine curriculum which is Govt. approved. The Govt. of India does offer attestation of their programs as being authentic. Legally, alternative medicine is an exempt profession in India. Homeopathy and Ayurveda are not considered alternaative but rather traditional Indian medicine and allopathy being considered Western.

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    They offer distance learning as well as clinical training (minimum 7 days per month) in general Western physical examination and lab interpretation as well as practical training in special alternative therapies such as acupunture, chiropractic, herbalism, Traditional Chinese medicine, naturopathy.

    Graduates are permitted to practice these anywhere in India.
    RMP (AM) is registered medical practitioner alternative medicine and is not to be confused with Rural Medical Practitioner.
    I removed the link from your post because it looked like spam to me. Can you make your case by using credible third party sources?
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    I would like to upload a file from the Government Body in India of validity of the programmes conducted by the Indian Board of Alternative Medicines. However i am unable to do so on account of file size being restricted to just 24KB while the file size that is to be uploaded is about 1100 KB.
    If anyone can help, would be highly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen2468 View Post
    I can attest that it is a fine school with a fine curriculum which is Govt. approved. The Govt. of India does offer attestation of their programs as being authentic. Legally, alternative medicine is an exempt profession in India. Homeopathy and Ayurveda are not considered alternaative but rather traditional Indian medicine and allopathy being considered Western.

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    They offer distance learning as well as clinical training (minimum 7 days per month) in general Western physical examination and lab interpretation as well as practical training in special alternative therapies such as acupunture, chiropractic, herbalism, Traditional Chinese medicine, naturopathy.

    Graduates are permitted to practice these anywhere in India.
    RMP (AM) is registered medical practitioner alternative medicine and is not to be confused with Rural Medical Practitioner.
    In India anything can get approval if you warm Politician's hands. Its a shame that there are so many bodies like this who are of no value but approved by the government.

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    This mill might have a government approval (or whatever they like to call it) in India, but their credentials have no professional or academic value. Please STAY AWAY.

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    Well i am an Indian and i would not tolerate a non-resident commenting on such practices in India. If you really think anything is possible in India by warming politician's hands, i would like to purchase a couple of States in India and would also like to become the President for a couple of months. Please warm the politician's hands and let me have them!!
    It is best you look into your own country's well-being which at present is much worse.
    And i think the question here was whether the institution is legally authorized to operate or not for which i requested documents from IBAM which clearly indicate so and anyone who is genuinely interested in the field can request the same from the institution or i can upload it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by dl_mba View Post
    In India anything can get approval if you warm Politician's hands. Its a shame that there are so many bodies like this who are of no value but approved by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv_bhajanka View Post
    Well i am an Indian and i would not tolerate a non-resident commenting on such practices in India. If you really think anything is possible in India by warming politician's hands, i would like to purchase a couple of States in India and would also like to become the President for a couple of months.
    If you have enough money to spread around it seems that you could get your wish.

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    Rajiv,

    Your patriotism is definitely appreciable, but please look at what you arguing about.

    The question here is not just whether the institution is "legally authorized to operate". Words can mean different things in different countries. There are many institutions in India that are 'authorized" to award certificates and diplomas in various fields. What we are debating here is the value of such diplomas.

    IMHO, the degrees provided by this Institution can be of any value to anybody if:
    - They are recognized by the University Grants Commission (which is the APEX body for University Accreditation) or Association of Indian Universities.
    - The degrees are recognized by corresponding professional bodies (like Medical Council of India)
    Last edited by msganti; 06-08-2012 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv_bhajanka View Post
    Well i am an Indian and i would not tolerate a non-resident commenting on such practices in India. If you really think anything is possible in India by warming politician's hands, i would like to purchase a couple of States in India and would also like to become the President for a couple of months. Please warm the politician's hands and let me have them!!
    It is best you look into your own country's well-being which at present is much worse.
    And i think the question here was whether the institution is legally authorized to operate or not for which i requested documents from IBAM which clearly indicate so and anyone who is genuinely interested in the field can request the same from the institution or i can upload it too.
    A few days ago, a CBI Judge (CBI is like FBI/CIA here) was bribed ($6 Million) to get a bail by one of the guys Janardhan Reddy who is accused in illegal mining scam.

    This shows you can bribe anybody in India and get things done.
    If you want, i can produce thousands and thousands of pages of evidence on all the scams in India including 2G, Coal Scam and Illegal Mining in many states.
    In education , you can easily bribe an Education Minister and get your school approved/accredited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv_bhajanka View Post
    I would like to upload a file from the Government Body in India of validity of the programmes conducted by the Indian Board of Alternative Medicines. However i am unable to do so on account of file size being restricted to just 24KB while the file size that is to be uploaded is about 1100 KB.
    If anyone can help, would be highly appreciated.
    Email to chip at degreeinfo dot com and I'll see that it gets posted for you.

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    Please have a look at this:
    Quacks make merry as govt flounders - Times Of India

    The government of India has setup "AYUSH" to regulate the alternative systems of medicine in India.
    Department of AYUSH

    Please don't get carried away by these "legitimate but fake" institutions - their certificates are not worth the paper they are printed on.

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    Fake doctors had IBAM "certificates!"

    Hmmm -

    I read the article and note that some of the "fake doctors" arrested had certificates from the Indian Board of Alternative Medicines.

    That should be proof positive of how the authorities regard the papers of this "institution."

    "Most institutes or boards which have supposedly given them certificates are non-existent. These include the Indian Multipurpose Medical Welfare Society, Indian Board of Alternative Medicines (affiliated to the UN!), International Association of Educator for World Peace and Rural Medical Practitioners Association of India. The majority of these quacks practised allopathy." - emphasis mine, J.

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    Thumbs down See No. 13 of this page and decide ...

    See No. 23
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    Please see UGC website University Grants commission ::Fake Universities

    There is no position 23 at all

    Position 13 refers to school in Uttar Pradesh, Indian Board of Alternative Medicines is registered in West Bengal, and under West Bengal law.

    This school is accredited because of Calcutta court order which "directed the West Bengal government, the West Bengal Medical Council (WBMC) and other respondents to file affidavits within three weeks on an application by Indian Board of Alternative Medicine (IBAM), Kolkata, challenging a government circular against them... while directing to file affidavit further directed to maintain status quo in this matter"

    So students, and their degrees are recognized by West Bengal Medical Council, but students still need registration with professional bodies according to their alternative medicines profession, like with NIMH if someone is a herbalist in UK, or with other bodies in different professions and have valid insurance certificate.

    You easily blamed IBAM, what you have me to say about British MSC degrees that are training alternative medicine practitioners and have 6 subjects only, no anatomy no phisiology, no practice of medicine, no professional body accreditation, but are one of the biggest and recognized universities, lets say more prestigious universities. Is it everything ok with them, or they just use they political power?

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