Liberty Baptist or Nations U???

**Hotdillon** · 07-02-2011 10:06 AM

Well, I have narrowed my search to LBU or NationsU!
What do you guys think? Which unaccredited school would you choose and the ability to use it either in church or secular world??
What are the odds of Nations getting DETC accredited in the near future as well?

Thanks guys!!

**Garp** · 07-02-2011 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hotdillon

Well, I have narrowed my search to LBU or NationsU!
What do you guys think? Which unaccredited school would you choose and the ability to use it either in church or secular world??
What are the odds of Nations getting DETC accredited in the near future as well?

Thanks guys!!

I am confused. LBU normally refers to Louisiana Baptist University but you are saying Liberty Baptist. Are you meaning Liberty University ? If so they are accredited.

If you mean choose between Liberty University and NationsU, then without a doubt I would say choose Liberty University . Having a degree with accreditation means far more utility.

If you mean Louisiana Baptist University and NationsU, I would say choose Nations U. The reason is that NationsU is working towards recognized accreditation and is free (better bet all around). The one CAVEAT writ large is that it depends what you want to do with the degree. If you are trying to get on board (ordained) with a fundamentalist Baptist denomination that does not care about accreditation but insists on Baptist training, you will get more mileage out of the LBU degree than the Church of Christ affiliated degree from NationsU (even though NationsU tries to be more non denominational it is still CofC affiliated).

**emmzee** · 07-02-2011 11:26 AM

Just to be clear ... Liberty Baptist University is regionally accredited. Louisiana Baptist University is unaccredited. I assume you are referring to the Louisiana unaccredited school, even though the title of your post says "Liberty ".

Accredited: Liberty Baptist University

Unaccredited: Louisiana Baptist University

Re the odds of Nations getting DETC accreditation, it may happen, but probably not anytime soon; they aren't on the DETC applicants list anymore. There's no guarantee they will ever become accredited.

**Hotdillon** · 07-02-2011 12:21 PM

I apologize.....I meant Louisiana Baptist University Vs NationsU!!

Thanks1!

**Garp** · 07-02-2011 03:45 PM

See my answer above. I would certainly lean towards NU for the reasons mentioned above (unless you are a fundamentalist Baptist). However, I will say that I have seen many very happy LBU students and grads post both about the educational experience and the very positive interaction with faculty and staff. LBU has a bricks and mortar campus and many alumni who are doing very well in Christian ministry and elsewhere (from the head of AWANA, to head of a SBC State Convention, to Roland Martin Roland S. Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). They obviously did not necessarily get these positions due to the LBU degree but that people of this caliber are associated with LBU speaks well of them.

**farmboy** · 11-01-2011 08:30 AM

It would seem that both are good choices. I have considered both but DETC does push me a little closer to NU.

**Johann** · 11-01-2011 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hotdillon

Which unaccredited school would you choose and the ability to use it either in church or secular world??

Originally Posted by farmboy

It would seem that both are good choices. I have considered both but DETC does push me a little closer to NU.

How would you use either unaccredited degree (legitimately) in the secular world? These schools confer degrees under religious exemption. They are not intended for secular use. Newsflash: Authorities take a dim view of secular use of (unaccredited) religious degrees in many places. Many uses of unaccredited degrees, secular or otherwise, are proscribed in quite a few locales. But you knew that...right? :)

As far as accreditation goes - I'd agree with other posters that DETC prospects are looking remote for Nations - even though I think it's a really decent school, academically-speaking. (I'm pretty sure DETC would agree on Nations' good academics, but I can't speak for them.) I'd guess that any free or nearly-free school would have trouble fitting the financial model required for DETC accreditation. I dunno - perhaps Nations would have better prospects with one of the CHEA-recognized faith-based accreditors. That's Nations' call - not mine.

Which is the "better" school? If I had to choose one for myself (and I don't) - it would be Nations, hands-down. I've heard nothing but good, academically about Nations - and that includes Nations grads who have degrees from good secular schools and whose word I've come to trust. I've read good and bad about LBU in this regard - opinions seem to vary.

Johann

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**farmboy** · 11-01-2011 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Johann

How would you use either unaccredited degree (legitimately) in the secular world? These schools confer degrees under religious exemption. They are not intended for secular use. Newsflash: Authorities take a dim view of secular use of (unaccredited) religious degrees in many places. Many uses of unaccredited degrees, secular or otherwise, are proscribed in quite a few locales. But you knew that...right? :)

As far as accreditation goes - I'd agree with other posters that DETC prospects are looking remote for Nations - even though I think it's a really decent school, academically-speaking. (I'm pretty sure DETC would agree on Nations' good academics, but I can't speak for them.) I'd guess that any free or nearly-free school would have trouble fitting the financial model required for DETC accreditation. I dunno - perhaps Nations would have better prospects with one of the CHEA-recognized faith-based accreditors. That's Nations' call - not mine.

Which is the "better" school? If I had to choose one for myself (and I don't) - it would be Nations, hands-down. I've heard nothing but good, academically about Nations - and that includes Nations grads who have degrees from good secular schools and whose word I've come to trust. I've read good and bad about LBU in this regard - opinions seem to vary.

Johann

My mistake. I failed to notice the original question. My personal goals are in the religious realm not the secular.

**Johann** · 11-02-2011 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Johann

As far as accreditation goes - I'd agree with other posters that DETC prospects are looking remote for Nations - even though I think it's a really decent school..etc.

Boy, did I blow that one!

I failed to look at recent info on here - Sept. 2011, Nations has successfully completed the Self-Evaluation Review and looks forward to being listed on DETC site as an applicant. Good news! This is a milestone in the process. I wish them success with the other steps - and sorry for failing to keep up on the subject.

Johann

**farmboy** · 11-02-2011 11:25 AM

I wondered when you said it. I spoke with Mac Lynn there last year and he explained to me that they hoped to have the Self-Evaluation review completed. Great to hear that it is working out for them.

Is it just me or does it seem like we are on a growing wave of DL improvement?

**graymatter** · 11-02-2011 11:46 AM

Jerry Falwell founded Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971. The name was changed to Liberty Baptist College in 1976. The name was changed again to Liberty University in 1984.

I've never heard LU referred to as LBU or Liberty Baptist University. That's likely because that has never been its name.

Originally Posted by emmzee

Just to be clear ... Liberty Baptist University is regionally accredited. Louisiana Baptist University is unaccredited. I assume you are referring to the Louisiana unaccredited school, even though the title of your post says "Liberty ".

Accredited: Liberty Baptist University

Unaccredited: Louisiana Baptist University

Re the odds of Nations getting DETC accreditation, it may happen, but probably not anytime soon; they aren't on the DETC applicants list anymore. There's no guarantee they will ever become accredited.

**Jonathan Whatley** · 11-02-2011 12:10 PM

Well, the theological seminary at Liberty University is still Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. It dropped the "Baptist" for a while within the past decade, then brought it back.

**graymatter** · 11-03-2011 12:24 PM

So the original post confused Louisianna Baptist College with Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary?

Wow. :) Now the only this in common is the word Baptist - and the letter L.

Originally Posted by Jonathan Whatley

Well, the theological seminary at Liberty University is still Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. It dropped the "Baptist" for a while within the past decade, then brought it back.

**emmzee** · 11-03-2011 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by graymatter

Jerry Falwell founded Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971. The name was changed to Liberty Baptist College in 1976. The name was changed again to Liberty University in 1984.

I've never heard LU referred to as LBU or Liberty Baptist University. That's likely because that has never been its name.

You're correct sir. I was using the "Liberty Baptist University" term because that seemed to be the way the OP was using it and that's what was causing the original confusion. I should have been more clear about the school's actual name.

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**vsantos316** · 01-11-2012 08:15 PM

I heard from another poster one can save lots of money by transferring credits from NU to LBT MA program??

**AdjunctInstructor** · 01-11-2012 10:10 PM

Please understand that your NU credits will not transfer into Liberty University . Liberty will consider your unaccredited degree, from NationsUniversity and a few other unaccredited religious schools, for probationary admission to the seminary.

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