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    Pata5359 is offline Registered User
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    I posted here before about my DETC bachelor's degree meeting the requirements for a higher position with my employer (a staff position at an RA technical college). I got an immediate $6k raise, plus I may have a shot at something even better coming up soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pata5359 View Post
    I posted here before about my DETC bachelor's degree meeting the requirements for a higher position with my employer (a staff position at an RA technical college). I got an immediate $6k raise, plus I may have a shot at something even better coming up soon.
    Right on Pata!!!! That is good news indeed. And I bet you didn't even end up with a huge student loan!

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    Hello everyone. My two cents on DETC. I am new here and I work for a RA accredited secondary school. After 8-years in the education business, our organization is looking at launching an online college in 2013. After reviewing the DETC standards carefully, they are very rigid and I would say the standards are equally as challenging as Higher Learning Commission. I believe the biggest issue with DETC is inability to transfer credits to RA colleges, but that is so common among all colleges and universities these days. I have noticed that most graduate colleges require an accredited bachelors degree, from an agency recognized by the USDEO for admission. The graduate schools don't specify RA; just USDEO recognition. As an educator, I feel DETC is a legitimate and valuable accrediting agency. The only downfall with DETC is that you cannot secure a Federally backed student loan. Again, DETC colleges are usually less expensive and who wants to graduate with a big college loan anyway, right? I think there is great value in DETC accredited colleges and schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodclarkson View Post
    Hello everyone. My two cents on DETC. I am new here and I work for a RA accredited secondary school. After 8-years in the education business, our organization is looking at launching an online college in 2013. After reviewing the DETC standards carefully, they are very rigid and I would say the standards are equally as challenging as Higher Learning Commission. I believe the biggest issue with DETC is inability to transfer credits to RA colleges, but that is so common among all colleges and universities these days. I have noticed that most graduate colleges require an accredited bachelors degree, from an agency recognized by the USDEO for admission. The graduate schools don't specify RA; just USDEO recognition. As an educator, I feel DETC is a legitimate and valuable accrediting agency. The only downfall with DETC is that you cannot secure a Federally backed student loan. Again, DETC colleges are usually less expensive and who wants to graduate with a big college loan anyway, right? I think there is great value in DETC accredited colleges and schools.
    Four out of five students at DETC schools never try to transfer their credits to a regionally accredited school, so for them it doesn't matter. And of those who do, three in four report success. So this issue, I think, has been waaaay overblown.

    By the way, DETC accredited schools are eligible to participate in federal student aid programs. But it comes with a lot of strings attached, so many don't, instead offering their own loans or payment plans. Besides, many of them are so much cheaper those loans aren't as necessary.
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    I have two NA degrees, they were recognized in EU and I was registered as Sate-certified Engineer , and State-certified Manager. This is a Qualification recognized in EU directives on recognition of professions in All 27 EU countries.
    It is also internationally recognized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerner View Post
    I have two NA degrees, they were recognized in EU and I was registered as Sate-certified Engineer , and State-certified Manager. This is a Qualification recognized in EU directives on recognition of professions in All 27 EU countries.
    It is also internationally recognized.
    Good news Lerner!!!!!! Way to go man!

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    I note there is no thread (much less a "sticky") called "RA Success Stories." Interesting that such a distinction is unnecessary.

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    How about a sticky about the millions of recent college grads from RA schools who are drowning in student loan debt and can't find a job?

    Yes, I'm being facetious. Seriously, I think the reason this thread exists is because so many people here wonder about the utility of an NA degree. I see it as a positive thing, especially for those who are new here and learning about accreditation.
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    Or how about a sticky talking about all the shootings that take place on RA campuses? Yes, I'm being a sensationalist right now, but hey, you don't see students getting blasted every year at ACICS schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Douglas View Post
    I note there is no thread (much less a "sticky") called "RA Success Stories." Interesting that such a distinction is unnecessary.
    The main steam and majority of degree granting institutions in the US are RA.

    A small % of graduates in US are from NA accredited schools.
    They already earned the degree and now trying to apply it.

    In UK I had harder time to get registered with EC UK. They rely on NARIC evaluation, NARIC UK will not evaluate US NA degrees.

    So I had to provide Technical Project a very serious undertaking and defend it in front a panel of professionals.
    People with RA and ABET accredited degrees get recognition and registration as CEng much faster.

    So this was one difficulty I had, but thanks God I was able to overcome it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCord1964 View Post
    How about a sticky about the millions of recent college grads from RA schools who are drowning in student loan debt and can't find a job?

    Yes, I'm being facetious. Seriously, I think the reason this thread exists is because so many people here wonder about the utility of an NA degree. I see it as a positive thing, especially for those who are new here and learning about accreditation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell_Smart View Post
    Or how about a sticky talking about all the shootings that take place on RA campuses? Yes, I'm being a sensationalist right now, but hey, you don't see students getting blasted every year at ACICS schools.
    Thank you both for your articulate analysis on this topic. RA schools are not the underdog in this battle of one-upmanship. Instead, NA schools seem to be constantly put on the ropes to try and prove themselves. That being the case, this thread is not only worthy but necessary.
    If the goal of this site is to educate, inform and give direction then of course we need to see who is making their way with an NA degree.
    My daughter is stepping out as an RA freshman this fall. I'm pleased for her. That being said, an affordable NA school seems a lot more likely in my continuing education if I am going to be able to assist her in her journey.

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    Well I can say that my degree helps me a lot of doing and communicating other people. At the same time Im boosting my self confident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardlynch View Post
    Well I can say that my degree helps me a lot of doing and communicating other people. At the same time Im boosting my self confident.
    Were you an English major?
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    Sometime recently, while surfing the Web for Great Books colleges, I found a "tutor" (their word for faculty) at an RA Great Books college who holds an NA DA from Harrison Middleton University. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy View Post
    I see that there was a professor there with an MA from Harrison Middleton and a PhD from Florida State and I had seen that one. But I think there was a guy with a DA from Harrison Middleton who was on the faculty of an RA Great Books school. The one I had seen with the Harrison Middleton DA reserves the term "Professors" for the Great Books authors and calls those who do the actual teaching "Tutors."
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