AJU s NA degree chances of getting jobs

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  1. passionate

    passionate New Member

    Hi,everyone,I ve already posted this question to another forum n communicating abt it but as it s related directly to this forum so i would like to post it here.i hope i m going to get positive n useful replies.Thanks

    hi,everyone,as i ve earlier mentioned tht i an Asian(Pakistani) currently working in Gulf.I m interested in taking MBA prog. of AJU which s national accredited n not regionally accredited in US.I dnt ve any knowledge abt difference between Regionally VS nationally accredited universities in US.Can any one throw some light on it?secondly i might move to Canada in future as i ve many relatives there,can a degree from AJU will help me to get a job in Canada or even USA.Also can a degree from AJU can help me to get a visa such as H1B for US.I mean do employers accept n recognize qualifications from national accredited universities? especially when they r gained online.All concerned n useful suggestions ll be welcomed.
     
  2. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    The degree must be accredited before you are eligible for a H1-B Visa; both nationally (DETC) and regionally (all six agencies) accredited degrees in the USofA as well as government approved (federal, provincial, and territorial) degrees in Canada.

    Employers in Canada, if a degree is required, only care whether the degree is the equivalent to a degree issued by a Canadian university or college. Therefore, the foreign-earn degree must be evaluated by an approved and recognized credential evaluation organization.

    Employers in USofA care whether the degree is the equivalent to a degree issued by a US university or college and tend to not differentiate between nationally and regionally accredited degrees in many instances. Once again the foreign-earn degree must be evaluated by an approved and recognized credential evaluation organization.

    Course delivery and degrees earned primarily or completely online has seen slow but steady increases in acceptance. These days most brick-and-mortar schools offer courses and often entire degrees via online delivery mode.

    I am sure others will contribute their thoughts, opinions, and knowledge on this matter.
     
  3. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    with regard to the H1B:

    http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/h-1b.cfm

    "Qualifying Criteria

    To hire a foreign worker on an H-1B, H-1B1, or E-3 visa, the job must be a professional position that requires, at a minimum, a bachelor's degree in the field of specialization. The occupation for which the H-1B, H-1B1, or E-3 classification is sought must also normally require a bachelor's degree as a minimum for entry into the occupation."

    I don't see how a masters degree from AJU would help in this situation. Your bachelors would be the qualifying degree and must meet the criteria set forth in the field of specialization for which being hired.
     
  4. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    The key phrase being "must also normally require a bachelor's degree as a minimum for entry into the occupation." This does not exclude someone with a graduate degree from being eligible for an H1-B visa. The job can require as a minimum a bachelor degree and an applicant for an H1-B can submit proof of their graduate degree which trumps a bachelor degree in all but a few specific cases.

    I have worked in the US on a TN-1 work authorization, not a visa, and did extensive research into the H series, L series, and TN series.The H1-B was initially meant only for those possessing extraordinary capabilities but has descended into a cesspool of corporate abuse. Can you really claim someone with a fake degree is eligible for the H1-B? Yet documented cases exist of this abuse. Fortunately , as an educated, experienced and qualified Canadian I have no need to subject myself to the H1-B.

    If in doubt about whether USCIS will accept a nationally accredited degree from Andrew Jackson University, call or email the USCIS.
     
  5. passionate

    passionate New Member

    thanks vry much both of u guys.I found this info very valuable n informative.I m thinking of mailing USCIS for the confirmation. Sentinel,can u plz tell me which authority in Canada deals abt degrees varification or so,to whom shd i write for Canadian verification.Thanks once again.This forum has helped me tremendously in this regard.
     
  6. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    The Government of Canada has established a web site to consolidate all the services offered to Canadians and visitors to Canada aptly named Services Canada. There you will find information about working in the country.
     
  7. passionate

    passionate New Member

    Hi,everyone
    thanks very much sentinel,for being so helpful.
     
  8. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Let us know the response.

    Thanks,

    Abner
     
  9. Jmorgan-at-AJU

    Jmorgan-at-AJU New Member

    Hey Passionate!

    If you would like to have your questions answered directly, we'd love to speak with you on the phone (or via email). Tammy Kassner, our Director of Admissions, is a guru on these types of topics. Give her a call at 800-429-9300 ext 107, email her at [email protected], or email me at [email protected].

    I'd love to help!
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Just a quick note; I received an e-mail from someone, asking why AJU was allowed to "promote" their school, and my answer (so everyone can understand) was this;

    1. AJU is a legitimately accredited school.

    2. Their employee who posts here provides good information, answers questions honestly, and conducts himself/herself in a completely professional manner.

    Several years ago we had a representative from the CSU-DH HUX program who posted, and she was always welcome.

    Provided it doesn't devolve into endless spamming or posting the same advertisement in multiple threads, employees of legitimately accredited schools are always welcome to tell us about their programs.
     
  11. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    I think that is a good policy Bruce. You have to admit AJU has great customer service, and I think it is great AJU reps answer any and all questions on this forum when the questions arise. It is a good testament to the school.

    Abner
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The way I look at it Abner, is that the main focus of this board is to assist people in finding legitimately accredited distance learning programs. If employees of those programs can provide information that will help people make the right choices for them, I think that's wonderful.
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    It depends on the employers and the area where you plan to live. The Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver area have very high concentrations of immigrants so most of the foreign degrees are not worth the paper it was used to print them for most of the employers given the saturated market with foreign degrees. Some European and American schools are well regarded but the besides the well known schools, it is hard to sell anything else unless you have Canadian experience.

    Now, for immigration purposes the degree from a DETC school can work but there is no guarantee that you would land a job in your field with an immigrant visa.

    I know of many Canadians that were able to use DETC degrees for employment purposes but all of them were already established and the degrees were just to put some more dressing on their resume.

    In few words, I would strongly recommend to get a degree from a Canadian school if you are planning to land a job in Canada. Some schools worth considering are Laurentian University (online Bcomm and MBA), Athabasca University, Royal roads University and University of Laval (French school). In addition, having a degree from a Canadian school can help you to get your immigrant visa and the immigration officer would be convinced that you will be able to secure employment in Canada once you land here.

    Luck!
     
  15. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    For the professional degrees like LLB, MD, and DVM you have a point. The person which such a degree from a foreign school will have a few hurdles to overcome to become licensed in Canada.

    For regular folks a foreign degree, if evaluated by a legitimate credential evaluation service, should be sufficient to meet to degree requirements for a particular position. At that point the Canadian experience factor becomes. Of course the old catch-22 arises because to gain Canadian experience one must have a job in Canada, but to have a job in Canada one must have Canadian experience. Better to arrive as an impoverished, uneducated, welfare-seeking refugee than a productive, hardworking immigrant it seems. We even let foreign warlords and their spouses into Canada. Sad.
     
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    This should be the case in theory but in practice it doesn't seem to be the case at least in the Montreal area. In my 10 years teaching career at University and college programs, I can tell you that for adult programs (MBA, Cont.ed, adult programs), at least 70% of my students are recent immigrants coming back to school to upgrade qualifications due to lack of recognition of foreign credentials.

    The problem is so real that a new immigration reform will be in place starting February of 2009. Bill 50 is giving priority to international students in Canada studying Canadian credentials and makes it almost impossible for foreign graduates to apply for permanent residence. There will be a short list of professions that can still apply for permanent residence with a foreign degree but the list won't be that long.

    I honestly don't think a DETC degree has a chance when people from better schools are struggling for employment in the major cities. In addition, starting February 2009, this student from Pakistan would need to show that he has already a job offer in Canada before he can be offered permanent residence or he might be lucky and have a profession in the short list of professions in demand in Canada.
     
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