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    BMWGuinness is offline Registered User
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    National Consortium Staff College

    http://www.usndfscom.com/edu_inter.htm

    http://www.usdcpasc.com/index.php?op...tpage&Itemid=1

    DIRECTORY Of DISTINGUISHED RECIPIENTS
    Honorary Degrees
    (Partial List)


    President George W. Bush, Washington,DC
    Former President George H.W. Bush, Houston, Texas
    Secretary of the US, Dept of Homeland Security, Tom Ridge,Washington, DC
    Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, Asa Hutchinson, Washington, DC
    Secretary of State, Colin L. Powell, Washington, DC
    Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, Washington, DC
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Anthony Principi, Washinhton, DC
    Secretary of the Army, Les Brownlee, Washington, DC
    Attorney General, John Ashcroft, Washington, DC
    Administrator, US. Fire Administration, R. David Paulison, Emmitsburg, MD
    Director of FEMA, Mike Brown, Washington, DC
    Director of the NERRTC, Jim Thyne, College Station, Texas
    Director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, Washington, DC
    Director of the CIA, George Tenet, Washington, DC
    National Security Advisor, Dr. Connie Rice, Washington, DC
    General Richard Myers, Chairman of the JSC, Washington, DC
    General Peter Schoomaker, Chief of Staff, US. Army Washington, DC
    General John M. Shalikashvili, Former Chairman JCS, Steilacoom, Washington
    Lieutenant General James R. Helmly, Chief-US. Army Reserve, Washington, DC
    Lieutenant General Steven Blum, Chief- National Guard Bureau, Arlington, Virginia
    Lieutenant General James Graham, CAO-USNDFSCOM, Mountain Grove, Missouri
    Lieutenant General Robert Manning, CG-USNDFSCOM, Yantis, Texas
    Rear Admiral Carlos Martinez, USNDFSCOM-IRR-Naval, Hempstead, New York
    Major General James Craig, USNDFSCOM, Everman, Texas
    Major General James P.Gaines, USNDFSCOM-IRR, Huntington, New York
    Brigadier General Susan E. Miller, USNDFSCOM-IRR, Erie, Pennsylvania
    Brigadier General Gerhard von Horvath, USNDFSCOM, Irving, Texas
    Brigadier General Barry R. Keller, USNDFSCOM, Las Vegas, Nevada
    Brigadier General Thomas J. Coppock, USNDFSCOM, Red Oak, Texas
    Brigadier General William S. Poulton, USNDFSCOM, Henrietta, New York
    Brigadier General Gerald W. Harding, USNDFSCOM-IRR, Irondale, Alabama
    Brigadier Carl McCutchan, USNDFSCOM, Fort Worth, Texas
    Brigadier General Manny Sierra, USNDFSCOM, Dallas, Texas
    Brigadier David Adams, USNDFSCOM-IRR, St. Louis, Missouri
    Captain Sean Peters, USNDFSCOM-IRR-Naval, Baldwin, New York
    Colonel Larry G. Hare, USNDFSCOM, Nelson, Missouri
    Colonel Phillip G. Rymam, USNDFSCOM, Harrisonburg, Virginia
    Colonel James P. Richardson, USNDFSCOM, Monroe, Louisiana
    Colonel Gregory R. Michael, USNDFSCOM, Nuevo, California
    Colonel Thomas W. Grieco, USNDFSCOM, Torrington, Connecticut
    Colonel Gene Bess, USNDFSCOM-IRR, St. Roberts, Missouri
    Colonel David M. Ritter, USNDFSCOM-IRR, North Wilkesboro, N. Carolina
    Colonel David Smalley, USAR, Cordova, Tennessee
    Colonel Robert W. Hettiger, USNDFSCOM, East Hampton, New York
    Lt. Colonel Joe M. Girot, U.S. Army, McDonough, Georgia
    Major Jack Perry, Jr. , USAR, Peachtree, Georgia,
    Major Andrew G. Schreiber, USNDFSCOM, Battle Creek, Iowa
    Major Lee N. Houser, USNDFSCOM, Clifton Springs, New York
    Major Paul Partridge, USNDFSCOM-IRR, W. Roxbury, Massachusetts
    CWO-4 Donald W. Porter, USNDFSCOM, Memphis, Tennessee
    Mr. Thomas Hankus, Chief, Community Relations Team, Army, Wash.,DC
    Mr. Ross Graham, WW-II Veteran, Drury, Missouri
    Mr. Dean Davis, AMVETS Post 168, Cabool, Missouri
    Mr. David G. Campbell, Vietnam Veteran, Bakerfield, California
    Mr. William L. Thayer, Army & USMC Veteran, Palm Desert, California
    Dr. Allen W. Savage, PHD. U.S. Army Veteran, Jackson, Alabama
    Command Sergeant Major Robert L. Barton, U.S. Army-Ret, Alexandria, Tennessee
    Master Sergeant Nuel Brill, U.S. Army-Ret. Cabool, Missouri
    Sergeant First Class Jimmie Y. Taylor, U.S. Army-Ret. Elk Creek, Missouri
    Sergeant First Class Andrew S. Pomykalski, USAR, Manteca, California
    Staff Sergeant Robert B. Land, U.S. Army-Ret, Clearwater, Florida
    HM2 Gregory Lehtimaki, USN-R, Newnan, Georgia
    Governor Bob Riley, Alabama
    Alabama First Lady Patsy Riley, Montgomery, Alabama
    Governor Frank Murkowski, Alaska
    Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, California
    Governor Bill Owens, Colorado
    Governor John G. Rowland, Connecticut
    Governor Jeb Bush, Florida
    Governor Sonny Perdue, Georgia
    Governor Joseph E. Kernan, Indiana
    Governor Robert L. Ehrlich, Jr. Maryland
    Governor Ronnie Musgrove, Mississippi
    Governor James E. McGreevey, New Jersey
    Governor Bill Richardson, New Mexico
    Governor George E. Pataki, New York
    Governor Michael F. Easley, North Carolina
    Governor Bob Taft, Ohio
    Governor Brad Henry, Oklahoma
    Governor Edward G. Rendell, Pennsylvania
    Governor Mark Sanford, South Carolina
    Governor Phil Bredesen, Tennessee
    Governor Rick Perry, Texas
    Governor Jim Douglas, Vermont
    Governor Ted Kulongoski, Oregon
    Governor Mark R. Warner, Virginia
    Governor Gary Locke, Washington

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    Add me to the list!

    Add LaFerney to the DIRECTORY Of DISTINGUISHED RECIPIENTS
    Honorary Degrees.
    They gave me one too for military service. ( a Doctor of Humanities)
    They grant Associate, Bachelor degrees, and Masters degrees based on completed FEMA EMI courses and Texas AM courses.
    They make it clear they aren't accredited:
    The knock on them is that the number of credits (courses) are not enough to receive a degree. They count your military and other (CAP/CGA etc)as experience. Since the only colleges you can really parlay the FEMA EMI courses into a degree is Frederick CC and TESC(and only after additional fees and testing, internships etc) the idea is good.
    From their site:
    The NCSC has non-acreditated degree and ceritfication programs in several fields. The purpose of these programs are to recognize significant achievement, experience and training in highly specialized areas. In order to apply for and receive any of these diplomas or certificates you must be a current member of the United States military (Active Duty, Reserves, National Guard, CAP, Coast Guard Aux or a member of Recognized State Guards, State Defense Forces and retired military).
    The Degrees granted by the USDCPASC / NCSC are Non-Traditional and are Specialized Training credentials in nature. The NCSC Degree must not be confused with the traditional Liberal Arts Degree from regular Colleges and Universities. The NCSC Degree program was specifically designed for the purpose of training military personnel so that they might be better equipped with the knowledge and training to enter the Disaster / Emergency Management field at either the Federal, Sate or Local level upon release from active military duty. All Federal, State and Local Disaster Preparedness Agencies (FEMA, Dept. of Homeland Security , TSA and others) are desperate for qualified citizens to fill positions in the Emergency Management field. It is the purpose of this program to help train people for such positions.
    All courses are recognized or accredited by the Government and are available free."
    Many of the posters have taken these courses for electives. This gives you a
    way to consolodate them into some kind of credential. Again unaccredited and on the ODA list. But I like the idea.
    And oh, yeh, insert my name here:
    Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, Washington, DC
    Honorary Doctorate USA, , LaFerney Lakeville, MA.
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Anthony Principi, Washington, DC

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    http://www.usdcpasc.com/

    This thing has a post office box in Mountain Grove Missouri. So my first question is whether it is operating legally in MO. It mentions a business license, but is it authorized by the state education authorities to award degrees? Somehow I doubt it. It wouldn't qualify for a religious exemption.

    There's a photograph of an impressive building with people walking around in what look like uniforms. But it's almost certainly a picture of something unrelated.

    Google searches or "national consortium staff college" didn't produce any hits on .mil, .gov, or .edu websites.

    But NCSC is on the illegal in Oregon list.

    Here's its parent organization, the self-styled 'United States National Defense Force Support Command' (In bombastic quasi-military style, NDFSCOM).

    Apparently it's one of several civilian "benevolent organizations" that like to dress up in military-style uniforms and occasionally behave as illegal far-right armed militias, intimidating citizens, pretending to be MPs and such. (NDFSCOM denies very emphatically that it does that.)

    http://www.usndfscom.com/usndfscom.htm

    They certainly like to toss around quasi-military jargon though.

    Unfortunately, the real US military doesn't seem to have heard of them. They produced three hits on .gov sites, all listings of private organizations participating in recent 'Disaster Preparedness Month' activities.

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    Unless things have changed, I don't think it takes much to get a license to be a "college" or "university" in Missouri. I wonder if they even license schools differently than other businesses....

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    Looks like about 83 Republicans and a couple of Democrats on that partial list.

    As long as the dreadful Western States University continues to operate unhampered from its umcampus in Doniphan, MO, it remains pretty clear that Missouri doesn't do much, if anything, in the way of regulating schools.

    Is she officially "Dr. Connie Rice" now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bear View Post
    Is she officially "Dr. Connie Rice" now?
    She already was; she earned her Ph.D. in International Studies from the University of Denver in 1981;

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/41252.htm
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    B.A. (Criminal Justice) Curry College
    M.A. (Criminal Justice) University of Massachusetts-Lowell
    M.A. (Forensic Psychology) Massachusetts School of Professional Psychology



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bear View Post
    Looks like about 83 Republicans and a couple of Democrats on that partial list.
    I expect that the NDFSCOM brass feel a stronger affinity to Republicans than to Democrats. (The Dems are more more apt to have Marxists cozied up to them.) But I'd be very surprised if any of the politicans who were awarded NCSC honorary degrees have any relationship with the organization. Chances are they aren't even aware of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    She already was; she earned her Ph.D. in International Studies from the University of Denver in 1981.

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/41252.htm
    Near the bottom of Dr. Rice's bio, it states:

    "...and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and*Michigan State University in 2004, and Boston College in 2006."

    No mention of an honorary doctorate from the NCSC thing.

    You know... if people actually used honorary degree titles, Dr. Rice would become Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Rice. That's almost as impressive as the gentleman with the curtain rod, but not quite.

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    Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas?

    The National Consortium Staff College (NCSC) reports to me that they are working to "achieve recognition for our degree program. The NCSC will become part of the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas in the future and will be under their accreditation."
    The only problem is I can't find this Institute in Kansas on a Google search or list of colleges in Kansas. (or MO. where the NCSC is ) Does anyone know anything about the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laferney View Post
    The National Consortium Staff College (NCSC) reports to me that they are working to "achieve recognition for our degree program. The NCSC will become part of the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas in the future and will be under their accreditation."
    The only problem is I can't find this Institute in Kansas on a Google search or list of colleges in Kansas. (or MO. where the NCSC is ) Does anyone know anything about the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas?
    The National Consortium Staff College now lists Smith Gaither Christian University on it's fake degrees. Its parent organization the 'United States National Defense Force Support Command' is well-known to many of us in the military as a group that is not military, but illegally wears military uniforms. It is a crime to wear military uniforms or something similar to a military uniforms is you are not in the military.

    * United States Code Title 10, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 45.
    * United States Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 33 Sec. 702.
    * United States Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 33, § 704.

    I regularly ban members of this group from a military discussion forum that I adminstrate for their deceptive comments and practices.
    Degrees? I don't want to tell. What's a degree again?
    Who told you that I had completed over 300 FEMA Independent Study courses?
    Forget DETC and RA, my degree has double secret accreditation.

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