Accepting the European System?

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  1. Peaceforall

    Peaceforall member

    Do you know the US Universities that accept European Students that have a 3-year Bachelor degree into graduate Schools?

    The European system, following the Bologna declaration (adopted by 27 countries including Russia), is the "3/5/8". 3 Year bachelor, 5 year Master, 8 Year doctorate.

    The first crop is arriving now which universities accept them?
    Thanks ( I have a young brother in that case)
     
  2. AGS

    AGS New Member

    interesting

    sounds interesting.....

    maybe the US system will be the 3/5/8 months..... the way we are going...LOL
     
  3. mba_expo

    mba_expo New Member

    I believe there is (and will continue to be for some time) much variation in the way U.S. institutions will interpret European bachelor's degree for admission to U.S. grad schools.

    More on the subject from the symposium: "The Bologna Process: Advancing Trans-Atlantic Collaboration in a Changing Higher Education Landscape"
    http://www.nafsa.org/_/Document/_/joint_symposium.doc

    Extract: "Those very characteristics often confound U.S. international educators. The assumption that there will be a Bologna “system” that will be consistent and easy to follow is not accurate. Diana Carlin reported in her summary of the first day’s discussion, “Bologna is about complexity not conformity. European higher education is not monolithic among and within signatory countries. The same is true of the U.S. system as a result of decentralized universities. Thus, it is impossible to establish a set of guidelines or policies to propose that U.S. universities should use.”
    Instead, European participants suggested that U.S. colleagues must—at least for now—rely on individual exchange partners to inform them about individual institutions’ progress in adopting Bologna. Indeed European participants urged U.S. colleagues to impress on their counterparts the importance of adopting the tools to facilitate transparency and allow U.S. institutions to properly evaluate the new degrees."

    Russell
     
  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I am wondering if the Europeans will ever accept the American 2/4/6/8 system since it works quite well. What do you think?
    2 = Associates
    4 = Bachelors
    5/6 = Masters
    8/12 = Doctorate
     
  5. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

     
  6. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    We have several students with 3 year bachelor's in our master's and PhD programs. The only problems I have heard about were outside the university. One student I know of is trying to get is PE license, but when ABET reviewed his undergraduate transcript, they told him he didn't have enough humanities and social science courses. So now, he has to go back and take classes like world history and sociology so he can be a licensed engineer!
     
  7. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    edowave: "...So now, he has to go back and take classes like world history and sociology so he can be a licensed engineer!..."

    Well I wouldn't want someone to build my bridge if she hadn't read Plato.

    As it happens, I met last week with one of the publicly-run credential evaluation services (ICES, at the British Columbia Institute of Technology), and was told that three-year European Bachelor's degrees are now acceptable in Canada, which is a fairly recent development.
     
  8. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I was told that Canadians who come to the U.S. with 3-year degrees in education are not eligible to teach k-12 in the American system. However, Canadian 4-year degrees in education are recoginized by the American system.
     

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