CA BPPVE "inoperative." Will mills run amok?

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  1. cbkent

    cbkent Member

    From: http://www.bppve.ca.gov/sunset_updates.htm

    The Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education Reform Act (Act) will become inoperative on July 1, 2007. Current law (Education Code section 94999) provides for a sunset date of July 1, 2007 and a repeal date of January 1, 2008.

    Q & A

    After July 1, what do I do if I want to open a new institution? Change the location of an existing institution? Want to add a branch location? Add a program or course? Certify a new instructor?

    As of July 1, 2007, institutions will no longer need to seek or maintain approval or registration from the Bureau to operate a private postsecondary educational institution legally in California. This includes changing locations, adding a branch location, adding a course, or obtaining certificates of authorization for service for instructors.
     
  2. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    But it appears that action to renew the BPPVE is currently under review in the California State Legislature.
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    If a state has no agency for the registration/licensing/approval/accreditation of institutiuons, does this mean, legally, that: (a) anybody who darn pleases can found their own new school, no matter how garbage-like it is OR (b) nobody can be allowed to found new schools, regardless of how incredibly superlative an education such a school might have provided had it been allowed to open?
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'd think it would be A. I mean, in the U.S. isn't it still the case the anything not expressly forbidden is permitted?

    -=Steve=-
     
  5. intro2life

    intro2life New Member


    An acquaintance of mine who had worked for many years as an attorney, once stated during a conversation at a social get-together that almost any action can be considered “forbidden,” if approached from certain angles. (Though “forbidden” was not the word he used.)

    If you are asking for more than a general perspective, hopefully Nosborne, cbkent, or one of the other posters knowledgeable about these matters will enlighten us all.

    My own layman’s sense of it is that you are probably right. This, if true, does not seem to bode well...

    Since the State of California Bureau of Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education (BPPVE) is now effectively defunct, I wonder what result this circumstance will have on schools with state licensure-qualifying programs that have not achieved recognized accreditation. Will this occurrence serve as impetus for such schools to seek accreditation from whatever accreditor they are able?

    I have looked at the websites of several BPPVE approved schools and found no mention of the recent sunset of operation.
     
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  6. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    California's legislature has rushed through a very minimalist 'stop gap' measure, which the governator has signed: AB 1525.

    There are at least half a dozen potentially permanent solution bills in the works. SB 823 (Perata) seems to have a lot of support.

    Recall that Gov. Schwarzenegger himself has a distance learning degree -- but he chose the University of Wisconsin, not one of "those California schools."
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Here's the text of 1525, along with a summary of its provisions:

    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_1501-1550/ab_1525_bill_20070426_amended_asm_v97.html

    Apparently all that it does is freeze matters until February 2008. Any school that was approved as of June 30, 2007 is deemed approved until 2-08. I guess that means that their graduates will still be able to take the state psychology exams. It also says that all matters before the BPPVE, applications, changes or whatever, will be continued until 2-08 as if no time had passed in the interim. Any missed deadlines will be ignored. Finally, it continues the state tuition reimbursement fund until next February and makes a small appropriation to fund it.

    He did the first two years of his BA, part-time on-campus, at Santa Monica College in Kaleefornia.
     
  8. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Unfortunately, this gap in supervision of CA schools makes unclear the status of legitimate schools such as wisr.edu, cpu.edu and many others.

    Dave
     
  9. back2cali

    back2cali New Member

    It seems that CA will no longer being viewed any better than states such as Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Missouri to name a few.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    California has been viewed by me as amongst the worst states in the nation for allowing diploma mills free reign ever since the KTLA report on Pacific Western University. The BPPVE exclaimed that PWU was a diploma after seeing the tape but then did nothing to stop their outright fraudulent practice.
     
  11. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    It certainly seems that more obvious action could have been taken against diploma mills and made public... This would have been fodder for an argument to renew BPPVE funding.

    Dave
     

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